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s.fitzsimmons
06-19-2012, 01:18 PM
I know that they're not available currently through the PTC, but if it was an option, would you go for it? I'm guessing a fair amount of work including refinish, routing, and filling would come in to play. It probably wouldn't be cheap, but I can think of at least one of my guitars that could use a refinish and 408's. How about you?

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06-19-2012, 01:21 PM
I know that they're not available currently through the PTC, but if it was an option, would you go for it? I'm guessing a fair amount of routing would go in to fitting the bridge pickup, and likely some filling of the neck pickup cavity. It probably wouldn't be cheap, but I can think of at least one of my guitars that could use a refinish and 408's. How about you?
If Brazilian Rosewood McCarty's with P90's weren't so #$%^ hard to find (there are only about 12 of them) I would love to have one routed for 408's.

Zilmo
06-19-2012, 02:21 PM
If they weren't so freaking ugly...

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06-19-2012, 02:29 PM
If they weren't so freaking ugly...

Yeah! I want the 59-year-old rectangular design back too! And while you're at it... I want big collar shirts with plaid polyester pants, shiny white belts, and matching patent leather shoes. Extra points if you can get a reliable supplier for power-blue leisure suits. I'd tell you spoiled-rotton kids all about the way things were back in '55 but I gotta go shampoo my brown shag carpet and wipe down my avacado appliances.

Now get off my lawn!

:D

;)

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06-19-2012, 02:37 PM
Other cool things from 1955...

http://www.swtpc.com/mholley/PopularElectronics/Apr1955/PE_Apr_1955_Cover.jpg

http://www.thepaperframer.com/covers/MoveilandPinupsv1n1-1955m.jpg

http://img2.netcarshow.com/Mercedes-Benz-300_SLR_1955_800x600_wallpaper_01.jpg

http://www.seriouswheels.com/pics-1950-1959/1955-Ford-Mystique.jpg

Shawn@PRS
06-19-2012, 02:57 PM
408’s are a player’s pickup, not a collector’s pickup

andy474x
06-19-2012, 02:58 PM
I have a feeling it would be pretty dang expensive. I'm not saying it wouldn't be worth it though, if you had the money. It might be possible to just route the rear pickup cavity a little wider, and then use a pickup ring that would would make up the empty space. In fact you might have to do that, I'm no finish expert but it seems like it would be tough to fill in lost space on a figured top without it being really obvious.
Speaking of aftermarket pickups, any word on 57/08's, etc. being sold without a trip to the PTC? I understood it when they were a specialty thing, but since they're standard production on so many guitars now... I know, probably an annoying question to ask, but I wasn't around on the forums when this was probably originally discussed!

s.fitzsimmons
06-19-2012, 03:48 PM
408’s are a player’s pickup, not a collector’s pickup

Then hook a player up my friend! Sent that quote request in a few weeks back... I could be the guinea pig.....

james
06-19-2012, 03:51 PM
http://img2.netcarshow.com/Mercedes-Benz-300_SLR_1955_800x600_wallpaper_01.jpg


yow.

Shawn@PRS
06-19-2012, 05:02 PM
I've asked Paul on several occasions about selling the 57/08 pups, but he feels strongly about not selling them. As long as his name is on the building, he has the final say and I'll only press my luck so far. :)

The 408 pickups wont fit a standard sized pickup cavity so that creates another wrinkle in and of itself.


I have a feeling it would be pretty dang expensive. I'm not saying it wouldn't be worth it though, if you had the money. It might be possible to just route the rear pickup cavity a little wider, and then use a pickup ring that would would make up the empty space. In fact you might have to do that, I'm no finish expert but it seems like it would be tough to fill in lost space on a figured top without it being really obvious.
Speaking of aftermarket pickups, any word on 57/08's, etc. being sold without a trip to the PTC? I understood it when they were a specialty thing, but since they're standard production on so many guitars now... I know, probably an annoying question to ask, but I wasn't around on the forums when this was probably originally discussed!

LSchefman
06-19-2012, 05:03 PM
If they weren't so freaking ugly...

Aw heck, Z, if you got one, you'd just whack a big hole, put in some plugs where the stoptail studs were removed, and stick a big nasty piece of chrome in there anyway.

And you'd do it 'cause you feel it sounds better that way!

So who cares what the pickups look like? It's supposed to be about the sound, right?

Zilmo
06-19-2012, 06:19 PM
408’s are a player’s pickup, not a collector’s pickup

My apologies, sir. I will stay out of this discussion.

james
06-19-2012, 08:50 PM
I think a lot of people were taken aback when they first saw 408 pickups. I wasn't big on their looks but I've definitely come around.

That said, I also used to prefer the look of covered pickups by a mile, but probably lean towards uncovered (aesthetically) now. I
Still want to do a 53/10 in a SE Korina One

Shawn@PRS
06-19-2012, 08:57 PM
My apologies, sir. I will stay out of this discussion.

Im not trying to discourage discussion about the 408's, I'm just pointing out that Paul is focusing first and foremost on tone.

bluefade
06-19-2012, 09:01 PM
McARTY 57-08+ KORINA 1812+ McARTY with BRAZILLIAN fingerboard= ONE SIGNATURE LIMITED!!! how's that trade grab you boy's ?????? The one thing you fellers don't seem to get... YOU'RE NOT TAKING ANY OF THESE GUIT'S WITH YOU,WHEN YOU MOVE ON TO THE BIG MUSIC STORE IN THE SKY!! So have as many as you can,while you can. Enjoy them,for it's just a temperary loan. Every guit you hang onto,is one less you'll get to play in you're life.Now get out there and play those guit's!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

WayneM
06-20-2012, 11:35 AM
Sometimes I like ugly.......:-P

SuperFly53
06-29-2012, 10:41 PM
I have a goldtop mcsoapy waiting for the day when the PTC will route it for 408s and drill a couple of holes for the mini toggles.

Just sayin'

crgtr
06-30-2012, 07:07 AM
I foresee pickup makers building 408 sized pups in the very near future. The popularity of them will dictate the market. I've talked to a few pickup makers myself & don't be surprised to see them start to pop up. Get your routers ready!! Mine is...... Maybe that purty gtr I just got from Brent could use a 408 style in the bridge!!

Fox77
10-22-2012, 09:24 AM
That 300SL is so the Coolest.Car.Ever.

I voted "Depends", as this appears to be quite an invasive procedure. I would so love to try the 408s, but haven't seen any guitars around that have them.

Ampguy
10-22-2012, 04:49 PM
I love the sound and the looks of the 408 pickups. I think that they are the best looking of any uncovered pickup. They are distinctive and I am glad that they are a non-standard size. When you see them, you know it is a PRS Guitar. I personally would not convert any guitar to use the 408 pickup, I would just buy a PRS that has them already. In a way, they are another example of Paul's brilliant marketing.

RedGuitars
10-22-2012, 05:26 PM
I can't imagine it being that big of a deal. I had a reputable PRS dealer tell me that routing had to be done just to swap out stock PRS humbuckers with another variety stock PRS humbucker (and they did said routing). The pickup rings cover the routing - no refinish is needed.

vchizzle
10-22-2012, 05:45 PM
I kinda feel like I'd rather just buy a 408 than go through the trouble. I've done a refin. I've done a fair amount of minor mods to my guitars. At some point there will likely be a decent amount of used 408's on the market if the model goes as well as PRS would hope. I'd rather just wait it out if I didn't wanna spend the $ on a new one.

John Beef
10-23-2012, 12:41 PM
I'd be willing to bet as lame as all the dealers in the Phoenix area are, there isn't a 408 anywhere for me to even go try out. <sarcasm> I know we're not a bustling metropolis like Lacrosse, Wyoming or something. </sarcasm> They have one down in Tucson at Rainbow Guitars, a Sig Limited, if I only had an entire day to devote to driving 250 miles to try out some new pickups.

So, would I have a guitar modified to fit aftermarket 408s? Maybe, maybe not. It depends on how they sound, and I would need to go try them 1st.