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crgtr
08-01-2012, 10:16 AM
Here's the the 1st installment of the pickup shootout. There are so many pickups that I will have to break it down to a pickup at a time and just 2-3 tone changes. On this one...EPISODE 1.....PRS pickups only. There are still more pickups showing up and I will shoot them and include them at a later date. So here ya go, let me know what you think. If you have any suggestions, don't be shy.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QS2MJS09B0w

swede71
08-01-2012, 10:25 AM
Great video but being the jest i am i only get my point proven.I hear the same midrange character of that guitar model in all pickups.Most interesting to me was how good the cheramic HFS sounded.Suggestion would be to try the same pickup in different guitarmodels :).That would be very interesting.

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08-01-2012, 10:39 AM
Sure wish I could get to YouTube from work. :(

crgtr
08-01-2012, 11:19 AM
Great video but being the jest i am i only get my point proven.I hear the same midrange character of that guitar model in all pickups.Most interesting to me was how good the cheramic HFS sounded.Suggestion would be to try the same pickup in different guitarmodels :).That would be very interesting.
I have another demo in the works that may get you some of that. I have an '07 & 2012 DGT and I have 3 set's of DGT pups. '07, '08 & 2012. I will be putting all 3 sets in both guitars. Should be interesting!!

rugerpc
08-01-2012, 11:19 AM
Holy Pickup, Batman!

I understand how much work is going into this... Just an excellent job so far!

WEDGE
08-01-2012, 11:24 AM
Chris, great video. I was disappointed in how my Dragons sounded.......live to me in the exact same guitar they sound good.......I might have to try something else now to compare.....damn you see what you started! :cool:

LSchefman
08-01-2012, 11:39 AM
Great project, and excellent execution. But by the time you get through the 57/08s I kind of lose focus, and when we start reaching the Dragons, I can't even tell what sounds best any more. That's not the fault of the process, it's simply that my mind starts to wander off.

I think brain fatigue happens after a while, and I really just need to live with a pickup to decide if it's going to work for me.

So far my favorites are the original DGTs, the 57/08s, and the 53/10s.

crgtr
08-01-2012, 11:53 AM
Great project, and excellent execution. But by the time you get through the 57/08s I kind of lose focus, and when we start reaching the Dragons, I can't even tell what sounds best any more. That's not the fault of the process, it's simply that my mind starts to wander off.

I think brain fatigue happens after a while, and I really just need to live with a pickup to decide if it's going to work for me.

So far my favorites are the original DGTs, the 57/08s, and the 53/10s.
I hear ya brotha! I have tried out so many pups playing the same licks for 2-3 months now. But I really like the '08 DGT's, the #6's & the Old Dragons in that guitar

slev
08-01-2012, 12:36 PM
Most interesting to me was how good the cheramic HFS sounded.

+1 on the HFS.

Chris, this is excellent. Great work. Dissecting this is going to be a lot of fun. Thanks for all the hard work.

Boogie
08-01-2012, 01:00 PM
You will inspire SO many people to swap pups now. Not sure how PRS will handle all of the orders!! :D

south89
08-01-2012, 01:29 PM
First I must say Chris very cool of you to do this video and thumbs up to everybody that sent pickups. Second , its hard to remember what sounded the best but for dirty tones I'm liking the 57/08's ( HolyGrail ) , #6's and the Dragon I. For a clean the McCarty and the 57/08's are what caught my ear but thats just me. So far it looks like my next PRS is gonna have to some 57/08's . Thanks again very cool.

John Beef
08-01-2012, 03:36 PM
Great project, and excellent execution. But by the time you get through the 57/08s I kind of lose focus, and when we start reaching the Dragons, I can't even tell what sounds best any more. That's not the fault of the process, it's simply that my mind starts to wander off.

I think brain fatigue happens after a while, and I really just need to live with a pickup to decide if it's going to work for me.

I agree with this, so I started skipping around in the video to compare one pickup directly to another.

So Chris, some constructive criticism - if in future videos, you could leave the name of the pickups up on the screen the whole time instead of just for a few seconds at the beginning of the lick, that would help us skipper-arounders! Then we can A-B any two pickups.

crgtr
08-01-2012, 04:11 PM
I agree with this, so I started skipping around in the video to compare one pickup directly to another.

So Chris, some constructive criticism - if in future videos, you could leave the name of the pickups up on the screen the whole time instead of just for a few seconds at the beginning of the lick, that would help us skipper-arounders! Then we can A-B any two pickups.
You got it John. I will do that on the next one. Keep the ideas coming!!

andy474x
08-01-2012, 05:13 PM
Very Cool! The 6's were definitely one of my favorites as well, along with the Deep Dish, and the HFS was surprisingly good too. Thanks Chris for the effort you put into this!

Jet Whitey
08-01-2012, 05:18 PM
I have a few sets you should try.......

http://i147.photobucket.com/albums/r312/Teasme4764/IMG_2420.jpg

http://i147.photobucket.com/albums/r312/Teasme4764/IMG_2419.jpg

http://i147.photobucket.com/albums/r312/Teasme4764/IMG_2412.jpg

veinbuster
08-01-2012, 05:26 PM
Very nice Chris.
I thought of noting the times each pickup started for future reference - maybe next time - and of course I would share.

Proxmax
08-01-2012, 06:01 PM
great job, chris.
gotta listen to it again with studio headphones!
thx man!

slev
08-01-2012, 06:19 PM
Alright, here's my index list for the clean portion of the shootout. Maybe someone else can do the crunch section before I get to it.

DGT STD-0:59
tapped-1:06

08 DGT-1:12
tapped-1:22

07 Gold Top-1:33
tapped-1:43

57/08-1:52
tapped-2:03

59/09-2:11
tapped-2:19

53/10-2:30
tapped-2:42

Mira/245-2:53
tapped-3:04

RP-3:14
tapped-3:23

NOS Dragon-3:31
tapped-3:39

Old Dragon-3:41
tapped-3:57

#6-4:09
tapped-4:18

2nd #6-4:27
vol rolled back-4:37
tapped-4:47

NOS Howard Leese-4:57

Deep Dish-5:07
vol rolled back-5:19
tapped-5:28
tapped vol rolled back-5:38

McCarty-5:45
tapped-5:52

NOS Artist-6:01
tapped-6:12

NOS Santana-6:22

HFS Old-6:23
vol rolled back-6:42
tapped-6:52
tapped vol rolled back-7:00

SE Santana-7:10
vol rolled back-7:21

These should get you pretty close to the beginning of each demo. Hope it helps. Thanks again Chris.

LSchefman
08-01-2012, 06:21 PM
Ya know, I forgot to say thanks! What's cool about this is that you CAN skip around and re-listen to pickups, and I just went back for a second listen.

You are SO the man, Chris! Just a wonderful thing you did.

crgtr
08-01-2012, 09:22 PM
I have a few sets you should try.......

http://i147.photobucket.com/albums/r312/Teasme4764/IMG_2420.jpg

http://i147.photobucket.com/albums/r312/Teasme4764/IMG_2419.jpg

http://i147.photobucket.com/albums/r312/Teasme4764/IMG_2412.jpg

Holy Crap!!!!!! I would consider reopening the shootout for those badboys...........Oh Momma!!!

Fox77
08-02-2012, 04:44 AM
What an effort, thanks a lot for doing this. Watched the whole thing twice last night :D

To me it has an extra informative value because I have the DGT Std as well. Must say that I'm very pleased with the DGT pickups but the sound of the 57/08s, 59/09s and Dragon I got me thinking.... :o ;)

Boogie
08-02-2012, 05:11 AM
Holy Crap!!!!!! I would consider reopening the shootout for those badboys...........Oh Momma!!!

At some point, you will have to go outside into the sunlight. Remember? That big, bright yellow disk in the sky? The one you can't seen from the basement? Hopefully someone is sending you food. ;)

crgtr
08-02-2012, 05:49 AM
At some point, you will have to go outside into the sunlight. Remember? That big, bright yellow disk in the sky? The one you can't seen from the basement? Hopefully someone is sending you food. ;)

Well, I DO see the sun most days. I usually eat....Oh yea, and I still have to go to my fulltime job 5 days a week..........What I REALLY need is sleep.... I can sleep when I'm dead. The pic of those rare PRS pups has me VERY curious!!!
I spoke w/ TV Jones. They are moving their facility right now so it will be a few weeks before he sends his pups. Kinda relived. Was ready for a break. But that pic above makes me do it all over again!

rugerpc
08-02-2012, 08:18 AM
one of the big surprises for me was how good the Mira pickups sound....

slev
08-02-2012, 10:34 AM
Here is an updated time index that includes the crunch tones as well. This is really good stuff Chris. Can't wait for the rest of the demos.

DGT STD-0:59
tapped-1:06
Crunch-7:35

08 DGT-1:12
tapped-1:22

07 Gold Top-1:33
tapped-1:43

57/08-1:52
tapped-2:03
Crunch-7:50

59/09-2:11
tapped-2:19
Crunch-8:10

53/10-2:30
tapped-2:42
Crunch-8:22

Mira/245-2:53
tapped-3:04
Crunch-8:44

RP-3:14
tapped-3:23
Crunch-9:07

NOS Dragon-3:31
tapped-3:39
Crunch-9:25

Old Dragon-3:41
tapped-3:57
Crunch-9:43

#6-4:09
tapped-4:18
Crunch-10:02

2nd #6-4:27
vol rolled back-4:37
tapped-4:47
Crunch-10:24

NOS Howard Leese-4:57
Crunch-10:47

Deep Dish-5:07
vol rolled back-5:19
tapped-5:28
tapped vol rolled back-5:38
Crunch-11:07

McCarty-5:45
tapped-5:52
Crunch-11:27

NOS Artist-6:01
tapped-6:12
Crunch-11:47

NOS Santana-6:22
Crunch-12:06

HFS Old-6:23
vol rolled back-6:42
tapped-6:52
tapped vol rolled back-7:00
Crunch-12:48

SE Santana-7:10
vol rolled back-7:21
Crunch-12:26

DiMarzio Tone Zone Crunch-13:10

Jet Whitey
08-02-2012, 02:25 PM
Holy Crap!!!!!! I would consider reopening the shootout for those badboys...........Oh Momma!!!

Your welcome to them....I've never had them in any of my guitars, so it would be nice to hear what they sound like. The PAF +'s are suppose to be pretty special!

gear_freak
08-03-2012, 06:25 AM
Thanks so much for this shoot-out Chris. It is hard to pick a favorite, each one has such a cool quality to them. A walk through PRS pickup history!!! You're work is appreciated!!!!

vchizzle
08-04-2012, 11:46 AM
Very cool. The conclusion I came to was that none sounded bad:D
And really, it comes down to very specific personal taste for what you play and want your tone and dynamics to be like. The 5708 grail stood out to me on 1st listen through, as well as the 5909. At least I own both those pickups:)

Thanks for your dedication to this process to give folks an idea of pickups they maybe haven't heard and can't try out. Lots of work doing the demos, swaps - not to mention editing and putting it all together.

crgtr
08-04-2012, 04:13 PM
Ok, I'm taking Whitey up on his offer, so next month I will start another pup shootout with his rare bunch of PRS pups. Maybe TV Jones will have theirs here by then. In the mean time, I just finished editing a PRS neck pup shootout. All cleans on this one. Couldn't fit any crunch tones into the 15 time limit. SO here's a question....DO you guys want to hear the tones with both pups on together? I don't mind doing it, but if their is no interest in it, I may just leave it out for now. I haven't even gotten to the non-PRS stuff yet!!

WEDGE
08-04-2012, 04:36 PM
Chris if your doing another round of PRS pups I have a swamp ash treble pup that I dont remember seeing in your shoot out if you want it.

crgtr
08-04-2012, 05:03 PM
Chris if your doing another round of PRS pups I have a swamp ash treble pup that I dont remember seeing in your shoot out if you want it.

PM'd you. Send it on, but take your time. It'll be mid-Sept before I start shooting again. Much, much editing to do. If anyone else has something they want in the shootout, let me know. I'll add it in Round II.

vchizzle
08-05-2012, 10:26 AM
Ok, I'm taking Whitey up on his offer, so next month I will start another pup shootout with his rare bunch of PRS pups. Maybe TV Jones will have theirs here by then. In the mean time, I just finished editing a PRS neck pup shootout. All cleans on this one. Couldn't fit any crunch tones into the 15 time limit. SO here's a question....DO you guys want to hear the tones with both pups on together? I don't mind doing it, but if their is no interest in it, I may just leave it out for now. I haven't even gotten to the non-PRS stuff yet!!
I would say leave the middle position out(even though I use middle more than just neck position), unless you're going to pair the neck with it's match bridge pickup...but I think that'll be too much info and sensory overload in one video. I know some people have matched set, some mix/match.