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rugerpc
08-23-2012, 10:32 AM
Shawn's PTC swirl thread was a fun progression from rough start to finished product. I thought I'd do the same with my project which I started just over 3 years ago...

When I consolidated my household with my sweetie, I lost my studio space. I was renting a house and she was buying a house, so we decided that her's was the place for us.

The first obstacle was that with both of us being on the high side of 50, we just had too much stuff between us. Even with countless trips to the dump and Goodwill, we managed to transform the garage and full (unfinished) basement from piles of 'stuff' to stuffed with things we didn't throw out or give away.

Well, an unfinished basement is a mixed blessing - you can put lots of things down there, but will you ever see them again?

So, I took on the job of building in the basement. I started small (and smart, I think) with a powder room. There would be no running up the stairs for nature and getting distracted with TV or some other project while I was working.

With the powder room done, I moved on to a storage room, then to a cedar closet under the stairs, a shop, a hallway with nooks for freezers and bookcases. Then it was on to a second hallway, a laundry room, a closet around the water heater with room for more shelving units, a closet around the breaker boxes and an entertainment room with kitchenette.

That left the current project, my music studio. Except for plumbing, every room in the basement proceeded along the lines of what I will show you here.

The starting place for all was concrete floor, concrete walls with insulation tacked to the upper half and joist ceilings. There was a rough in for the business end of a toilet and one (1) 15 amp circuit of electricity powering bare bulb fixtures and only a couple of outlets.

On to the studio which I started less than a month ago. The first thing needed was a cozy floor. We wanted to be able to go into the basement on cold winter mornings barefoot. so, an insulated floor had to be installed.

Vapor barrier, pressure-treated 2x4s on their sides 'shot' into the cement with .27 calibre power 5 nails (insert Tim Allen grunt here).

http://i1073.photobucket.com/albums/w382/rugerpc/Guitars/studio/floor1.jpg

Insulation provided by carefully cut closed core foam panels.

http://i1073.photobucket.com/albums/w382/rugerpc/Guitars/studio/floor2.jpg

3/4 plywood then nailed and screwed to the 2x4s. The above 2 pics are from the entertainment/kitchenette section, but the process was the same for the entire floor.

This is how it starts. I'm way past this part now and will be giving you pics in increments.

I hope you enjoy the process. I'd also be happy to answer questions about details if you have them.

Shawn@PRS
08-23-2012, 11:33 AM
I'll be watching this thread intently. I need to do the same thing with my basement

sergiodeblanc
08-23-2012, 12:36 PM
Cool!

themike
08-23-2012, 01:34 PM
AWESOME! I just knocked down a wall between my room and the guest room to create a Man-tropolis. Living in one side, and studio on the other so I love seeing projects like these.

It's good to finally have the gear in one spot that's comfortable :)

We framed everything out, dry walled, spackled, sanded, painted, rain electric and laid the new floor all ourselves.

(pre-molding and pre-wall hangers for guitars, hense why there are only 3 visible haha)

http://i48.tinypic.com/jruzau.jpg

rugerpc
08-23-2012, 01:51 PM
http://i48.tinypic.com/jruzau.jpg

AWESOME floor, dude. Is that hardwood or just a fantastic laminate?

themike
08-23-2012, 02:01 PM
Thanks man, it was just a laminant! Super easy to install myself and cheap as all hell. I think I paid $400 and change for the pallet from Home Depot.com for enough to do the room (the photo only shows 1/3 of the room).

I don't see the exact one I got listed on their site anymore, but it was Home Legend Brazillian Cherry, and it was the thinner of their offerings.

rugerpc
08-27-2012, 12:12 PM
I've been framed!!

After the 3/4 plywood subfloor, it was time for framing. I did the powder room by hand hammering and just about wore myself out. That meant investing in a pneumatic framing gun. If you are building anything more than just a small project, you need these tools!

This view is from the studio looking into the hallway leading to the entertainment/kitchenettte room. On the left is the framed closet for the water heater and storage, on the right is the laundry. To the near right is the hallway with the freezers and bookcases.

http://i1073.photobucket.com/albums/w382/rugerpc/Guitars/studio/studs1.jpg

This view looks in the same direction. The closet with the water heater is finished, as are the laundry and entertainment/kitchenette. I removed the half insulation left by the builder from the outside wall on the left, I'll be doing a more thorough job...

http://i1073.photobucket.com/albums/w382/rugerpc/Guitars/studio/studs2.jpg

this is the reverse view. The shop is to the left through a double pocket door. (I'm the king of pocket doors, BTW. There are 5 singles and 1 double pocket doors in the project. That along with 2 regular doors, a double closet slider and something I'll show next time. The double door on the right got significant lock and major bar into the cement upgrades for security and will be topped off with a new burglar alarm. Gotta protect what will eventually be stored and used here. I'll end up doing a bigger vertical bar into framing before it is through.

http://i1073.photobucket.com/albums/w382/rugerpc/Guitars/studio/studs3.jpg

That's the sump pump in the far right corner - a challenge to design around itself...

themike
08-27-2012, 12:45 PM
Wow man, great job! It looks absolutely fantastic so far.

soundbee
08-27-2012, 01:00 PM
lots of outlets!!!! Nice ;-)

FYI - our local building code requires outlets to be 28in or more off the floor.

Shawn@PRS
08-27-2012, 01:07 PM
Wow man, looking really nice. You've done this before, right?

QueenCityGuitars
08-27-2012, 03:49 PM
Just the word "basement" makes me cringe. :mad:

Yours looks great though, rugerpc!

cjmwrx
08-27-2012, 04:30 PM
Sorry about the hijack, but this is my Living Room/Studio/ Home office. Looking forward to seeing your finished space!

http://i1127.photobucket.com/albums/l632/gibmarsh/P8272734.jpg
http://i1127.photobucket.com/albums/l632/gibmarsh/P8272733.jpg

rugerpc
08-27-2012, 07:09 PM
Wow man, great job! It looks absolutely fantastic so far.

Thanks so much :) It is actually a relaxing thing to do. My only timetable is whatever I set for myself.


lots of outlets!!!! Nice ;-)

FYI - our local building code requires outlets to be 28in or more off the floor.

There will be lots of things to plug in :) There are four 20 amp circuits arranged around the walls alternating. They all come off the same phase so there will be no ground looping from amp to mixer to computer, etc. With 48 total outlets, I hope to completely dispense with outlet strips once and for all. I did something similar in the entertainment room. 3 20 amp circuits from the other phase coming into the house split between 24 outlets for the tv, surround receiver, powered subwoofer, DVD player, blu ray, wii, Nintendo, computer, etc. No ground loops there either.


Wow man, looking really nice. You've done this before, right?

Not on this scale. But I had great training. My dad remodeled or built in every house we ever lived in... This is my first full basement complete with insulated floor, plumbing and heating.


Just the word "basement" makes me cringe. :mad:

Yours looks great though, rugerpc!

Climate control, including moisture control is the hardest part to manage. Lots of insulation, particular attention to the HVAC balance and control of the sump pump are key. Having a lot that never floods, even in the most torrential downpours helps. The sump mostly runs to evacuate condensed water when the AC is running in the summer.

rugerpc
08-27-2012, 07:13 PM
Sorry about the hijack, but this is my Living Room/Studio/ Home office. Looking forward to seeing your finished space!

http://i1127.photobucket.com/albums/l632/gibmarsh/P8272734.jpg
http://i1127.photobucket.com/albums/l632/gibmarsh/P8272733.jpg

Absolutely no problem! In fact, I think it would be fun for other forum members to show their studios in this thread as well!

So, while I'm working on mine, let's see 'em!

Albrecht Smuten
08-28-2012, 02:40 AM
Guys, I envy you so much! =) I must travel a 100 km even for a band rehearsal =D
When I grow up, I have to get one of those fancy home studios!

rugerpc
08-28-2012, 08:52 AM
lots of outlets!!!! Nice ;-)

FYI - our local building code requires outlets to be 28in or more off the floor.

A bit more info...

The US National Electrical Code is silent on residential outlet height, making that a design consideration. Most home outlets that are not above counter tops are in the 10" to 14" range. Mine are the height of framing hammer from claw to handle end. A trick I learned from my father for easy, no-measure uniformity of placement. You put the claw down on the subfloor next to a stud and set the outlet box on the end of the hammer handle. I attach my outlet boxes with screws, so I screwgun the box in place while it rests on the hammer. Voila - every outlet at the same height.

Mikegarveyblues
08-28-2012, 08:57 AM
Looking great man!!!

Starting to get a little jealous... Will be more so if you never hear a peep from the neighbours once it's done! :)

rugerpc
08-28-2012, 09:39 AM
Looking great man!!!

Starting to get a little jealous... Will be more so if you never hear a peep from the neighbours once it's done! :)

Thanks! Hopefully sound won't be a big problem. I have some high wattage amps, but I almost never crank them. And I'm insulating for both climate and sound which I'll detail as we get there....

rugerpc
09-04-2012, 09:02 AM
A framing detail. Existing basement windows posed a framing challenge. They would not line up with either the finished walls or the finished ceilings. So, they required boxing in a bump out and reverse ceiling well.

http://i1073.photobucket.com/albums/w382/rugerpc/Guitars/studio/window1.jpg

I had to do a similar thing around the outside door (photo to follow) .

At one end of the room, where the sump pump is, there is to be a closet. Sliders were always the plan, but the opening is approx 10 feet! I originally thought that I would frame for 3 36" sliders, but then realized that if I framed for FOUR 28" sliders instead, I could increase my maximum opening from 35" to 57". That should make it easier to get bulky things like guitar cases in and out of the closet. BTW, don't expect the hardware store to stock kits for more than 2 doors on a slider and don't even look for longer tracs there. The 4 door hardware kit and longer rails were special order.

http://i1073.photobucket.com/albums/w382/rugerpc/Guitars/studio/closet1.jpg

themike
09-04-2012, 09:07 AM
I absolutely love it man, you're doing a seriously killer job!

aduayer
09-04-2012, 09:11 AM
sweet. Really liking this

RedGuitars
09-04-2012, 09:56 AM
Sorry about the hijack, but this is my Living Room/Studio/ Home office. Looking forward to seeing your finished space!


http://i1127.photobucket.com/albums/l632/gibmarsh/P8272733.jpg

I used to have a living room that was similarly equipped - before I re-married... :)

Shawn@PRS
09-04-2012, 10:32 AM
looking good!

JMintzer
09-04-2012, 10:58 AM
The room is coming along great! Thanks for the updates!

I did a similar thing 5 years ago.

Old Music "Room"

http://pic90.picturetrail.com/VOL2270/702387/1177246/86711405.jpg

Finished Room

http://pic90.picturetrail.com/VOL2270/702387/1177246/339131616.jpg

http://pic90.picturetrail.com/VOL2270/702387/1177246/339131620.jpg

My Work Bench (Thorn not included...)

http://pic90.picturetrail.com/VOL2270/702387/1177246/339131615.jpg


Jamie

rugerpc
09-04-2012, 11:34 AM
Nice job, Jamie. Aren't those I beams, poles and HVAC ducts fun to plan around?? :)

JMintzer
09-04-2012, 12:35 PM
Yeah, they were , um... "challenging"...

When the house was built, no thought was given to where the HVA ran, since finishing the basement wasn't in the plans for the previous owners...


Jamie

Dirty Bob
09-04-2012, 01:43 PM
Very cool rooms guys! Love how the OP's project is coming along.

Here is my Room...it's a bonus room. As I've mentioned in other posts my family moved in the beginning of August so it is a work in progress...I only have some of my stuff in so far. I'm standing in an alcove out of the picture in the first two shots where a Drum set is going...either that or a bar. Have to get the TV and the surround sound hooked up. Need to also get some art for the walls. Still don't know where alot of my stuff is...I feel like I'm going to be living out of boxes for the next couple of years...moving is nuts. I did put a crazy alarm system in...freaky to have alot of my gear in one place.

http://i1073.photobucket.com/albums/w388/DirtyMoonsRJT/photo-2.jpg

http://i1073.photobucket.com/albums/w388/DirtyMoonsRJT/photo-3.jpg
http://i1073.photobucket.com/albums/w388/DirtyMoonsRJT/photo.jpg
http://i1073.photobucket.com/albums/w388/DirtyMoonsRJT/photo-4.jpg

rugerpc
09-05-2012, 08:06 AM
Yeah, they were , um... "challenging"...

When the house was built, no thought was given to where the HVA ran, since finishing the basement wasn't in the plans for the previous owners...

Jamie

I pretty much had the same problem here. When the house was originally built, I think the basement was only meant for utilities and storage. As a result, between the I-beams, poles, HVAC ducting and 94" clearance between slab and joists, I had lots of compromises to make and wall positions and room shapes were partially dictated to me.

I was determined, for one thing, not to have any exposed infrastructure - especially the poles. So, there are some lower ceilings where the beams and HVAC run and all poles are hidden in walls. When I finish this last room - I'll show some shots of the other rooms.

rugerpc
09-05-2012, 08:12 AM
...where a Drum set is going...either that or a bar.

Oh, decisions, decisions.... I have payed drums a lot longer than I have played guitar and quite a bit longer than I have been enjoying adult beverages...

So, I'm torn. How about building a bar around the drum set?

alantig
09-05-2012, 06:58 PM
So, I'm torn. How about building a bar around the drum set?

How about a bar as PART of the drum set????

Dirty Bob
09-05-2012, 07:36 PM
How about a bar as PART of the drum set????


I think we have a winner!!!

Seriously can't figure out if I want the drums in this room or the basement.... I don't play drums...my brother who lives in an apartment in NYC wants me to put a kit in there...it would be cool I guess... I could probably cram a bar in someplace else...also we have an extra fridge right down that staircase ....all I use it for now is beer....hmmmm.

i guess these are good problems to have!

Shawn@PRS
09-05-2012, 08:28 PM
http://i1073.photobucket.com/albums/w388/DirtyMoonsRJT/photo.jpg



Nice room Bob, except for one problem. That alcove isn't for storing guitar cases, that is where you're supposed to stand while you're playing guitar. :)

Rango
09-05-2012, 09:34 PM
Great Project!
When we built our new house the Family got a pool, I got THIS:

http://i976.photobucket.com/albums/ae245/Chutist/76a73f64-1.jpg

16x25 music room - I can keep my drums and PA set up and I'm on 2.5 acres with no neighbors on 3 sides - Full VOLUME band practice 24/7! :D Well.... As long as it's cool with the wife! ;) LOL!!!

Dirty Bob
09-06-2012, 12:34 AM
Nice room Bob, except for one problem. That alcove isn't for storing guitar cases, that is where you're supposed to stand while you're playing guitar. :)


Ahhh...a stage!!! Why didn't I think of that! Heck that's more space then they give most bands in bars!

RedGuitars
09-06-2012, 10:31 AM
I miss this space... moved not long after completing it...

http://web.qx.net/mcantrell/bandspace.JPG

Dirty Bob
09-06-2012, 11:06 AM
I love seeing how people make their gear addictions work! Especially when there is a significant other involved or if you have limited space! (it sure can be tricky...I know this first hand...well that is up until recently now that I have more space) Some awesome rooms posted so far...I guess after seeing some of these I need to get a PA too?

rugerpc
09-06-2012, 01:32 PM
Before the drywall... Insulation!

I'm using R15 here....

http://i1073.photobucket.com/albums/w382/rugerpc/Guitars/studio/insulate1.jpg

http://i1073.photobucket.com/albums/w382/rugerpc/Guitars/studio/insulate2.jpg

Over the insulation goes the vapor barrier...

http://i1073.photobucket.com/albums/w382/rugerpc/Guitars/studio/vapor1.jpg

http://i1073.photobucket.com/albums/w382/rugerpc/Guitars/studio/vapor2.jpg

Yes, the closet got insulation and vapor barrier too.

CoreyT
09-06-2012, 06:18 PM
Wow great studios guy's.
Gives me ideas for when I move in the future.

Jamie where did you get the PRS Poster?

My mini studio :D
Missing is my new SE Custom 24 that is due any day.

http://www.pnw4runners.com/guitar_stuff/18.jpg

JMintzer
09-06-2012, 06:44 PM
Jamie where did you get the PRS Poster?

They used to sell them in the PRS Accessory Shop...


Jamie

Shawn@PRS
09-06-2012, 06:55 PM
We'll have some cool man-cave items at the Experience this year. Stop by the T shirt tent and check out the new stuff.

CoreyT
09-06-2012, 07:30 PM
They used to sell them in the PRS Accessory Shop...


Jamie
Thanks1

We'll have some cool man-cave items at the Experience this year. Stop by the T shirt tent and check out the new stuff.
Will the posters be online too?

themike
09-06-2012, 07:56 PM
We'll have some cool man-cave items at the Experience this year. Stop by the T shirt tent and check out the new stuff.

Ohhhhhhhhh this could be dangerous! haha

Rango
09-07-2012, 02:45 PM
I'd love to have one of the posters for my music room! Maybe they will add them back to the store?

rugerpc
09-08-2012, 10:23 AM
some drywall...

http://i1073.photobucket.com/albums/w382/rugerpc/Guitars/studio/drywall1.jpg
http://i1073.photobucket.com/albums/w382/rugerpc/Guitars/studio/drywall2.jpg

JMintzer
09-08-2012, 03:06 PM
I'm lovin' all the electrical outlets! I had my contractor load up my room, as well...


Jamie

rugerpc
09-09-2012, 09:02 PM
I'm lovin' all the electrical outlets! I had my contractor load up my room, as well...


Jamie

It's not so bad puttin' in the boxes and running the wires. It's when it is time for drywall that you wonder if you went overboard. There are 12 double outlets, 7 single outlets, 1 double switch and 3 single switches - and each had to be accurately measured for a hole in the drywall.

There was not a single sheet that didn't require a cut or holes or both.

rugerpc
09-11-2012, 07:43 AM
OK, I fibbed.

Two sheets went up in the closet without any major measuring.... But really - are you gonna hold that against me?

rugerpc
09-11-2012, 09:17 AM
Some window details.

The basement windows are set into the concrete walls with a little lip and are positioned pretty high. They can be set to open inwards from the top down or the bottom up. From the top down provides better air on nice days. When open, the window pane is raised pretty high - higher than the finished ceiling will be necessitating a bump out.

Here is the framing:

http://i1073.photobucket.com/albums/w382/rugerpc/Guitars/studio/window1.jpg

And here is what it looks like with drywall and some boards for the sill and sides. Gaps will be filled with caulk before painting.

http://i1073.photobucket.com/albums/w382/rugerpc/Guitars/studio/window2.jpg

rugerpc
09-20-2012, 07:58 AM
After the drywall usually comes mud and sanding. But I learned from the other parts of the basement that good light is critical to getting a smooth spackle finish - especially if you intend to use semigloss paint.

So, instead of jumping right into the mud, I do all the seams where the finish ceiling will be and paint a strip. With the strip up at the approx ceiling height, it's time to get out the 3 axis laser level and mark for the side rails of the ceiling. (a pic of the laser level will appear when I'm working on the closet shelf)

After I have the L brackets on the walls, it's time to run the mail support brackets. Surveyor's string helps keep them straight and level.

http://i1073.photobucket.com/albums/w382/rugerpc/Guitars/studio/ceiling1_zps0b499c2d.jpg

http://i1073.photobucket.com/albums/w382/rugerpc/Guitars/studio/ceiling2_zpsa9a027f6.jpg

Install a few lights...

http://i1073.photobucket.com/albums/w382/rugerpc/Guitars/studio/ceiling3_zps0a3a9e64.jpg

http://i1073.photobucket.com/albums/w382/rugerpc/Guitars/studio/ceiling4_zps981c64e1.jpg

And then the rest of the ceiling panels...

http://i1073.photobucket.com/albums/w382/rugerpc/Guitars/studio/ceiling5_zps877470f1.jpg

http://i1073.photobucket.com/albums/w382/rugerpc/Guitars/studio/ceiling6_zps16b306e1.jpg

Details on the HVAC ducting next....

rugerpc
09-21-2012, 08:00 AM
While I'm getting better pics of the HVAC, here are pics of the primed and painted walls...

http://i1073.photobucket.com/albums/w382/rugerpc/Guitars/studio/prime1_zps3e74c4c8.jpg

http://i1073.photobucket.com/albums/w382/rugerpc/Guitars/studio/prime2_zps684f8063.jpg

http://i1073.photobucket.com/albums/w382/rugerpc/Guitars/studio/paint1_zps722faf73.jpg

http://i1073.photobucket.com/albums/w382/rugerpc/Guitars/studio/paint2_zps77216b0c.jpg

themike
09-21-2012, 08:58 AM
Wow man you'ree doing an absolutely amazing job! I love it!!!!

Dirty Bob
09-21-2012, 09:12 AM
coming along nicely!

Shawn@PRS
09-21-2012, 09:41 AM
Looks amazing!

rugerpc
09-23-2012, 02:44 PM
HVAC...


When I started the basement, there were 2 very small registers cut directly into the supply ducting pointing down from the joist ceiling. That is not nearly enough ventilation and I was planning to hide the ducting as well.

In rooms that would be occupied (i.e. not store rooms), This is what I ended up with:

A ceiling vent with adjustable damper - 2 of them in the media room, one in the shop and two in the studio.

http://i1073.photobucket.com/albums/w382/rugerpc/Guitars/studio/HVAC1_zpse70e5677.jpg

http://i1073.photobucket.com/albums/w382/rugerpc/Guitars/studio/HVAC2_zps2b046ee4.jpg

I had to tapp the supply duct for each one and run flex and rigid ducts:

http://i1073.photobucket.com/albums/w382/rugerpc/Guitars/studio/HVAC3_zps908254b9.jpg

http://i1073.photobucket.com/albums/w382/rugerpc/Guitars/studio/HVAC4_zpsf3b9d026.jpg

rugerpc
09-24-2012, 03:25 PM
Let's finish the floor!

"dimensional" lumber is anything but... You can take great pains to select the straightest, highest quality lumber and you will still have to deal with sloppy tolerances.

In this case the tolerances are those of the 2X4 pressure treated 'sleepers' and the plywood decking. A bow here, a variance in thickness there and you end up with ledges where the plywood panels meet.

That means leveling compound...

http://i1073.photobucket.com/albums/w382/rugerpc/Guitars/studio/floor3.jpg

http://i1073.photobucket.com/albums/w382/rugerpc/Guitars/studio/floor4.jpg

http://i1073.photobucket.com/albums/w382/rugerpc/Guitars/studio/floor5.jpg

Fortunately it is relatively easy to work with and sands to a feather edge

http://i1073.photobucket.com/albums/w382/rugerpc/Guitars/studio/floor6.jpg

The finished floor is a product called 'Allure' available only at the Home Depot. It is a 'Resilient Plank Flooring' that is laid down in strips with its own self adhesive edges.

http://i1073.photobucket.com/albums/w382/rugerpc/Guitars/studio/floor7.jpg

http://i1073.photobucket.com/albums/w382/rugerpc/Guitars/studio/floor8.jpg

This is a 'floating floor.' It is not glued or taped to the subfloor. You cut it with a utility knife or heavy shears.

This particular finish is "Teak."

http://i1073.photobucket.com/albums/w382/rugerpc/Guitars/studio/floor9.jpg

http://i1073.photobucket.com/albums/w382/rugerpc/Guitars/studio/floor10.jpg

Trim is next!

JMintzer
09-24-2012, 04:48 PM
Sweet!

rugerpc
09-25-2012, 09:37 AM
The trim.

I had to frame around the existing steel door and the window with bumpouts to the finished and insulated walls. That required some finish framing to make the bumpouts smooth.

http://i1073.photobucket.com/albums/w382/rugerpc/Guitars/studio/window2.jpg

http://i1073.photobucket.com/albums/w382/rugerpc/Guitars/studio/trim1_zpsbaa7a11c.jpg

http://i1073.photobucket.com/albums/w382/rugerpc/Guitars/studio/trim2_zps178d628e.jpg

Then some caulk...

http://i1073.photobucket.com/albums/w382/rugerpc/Guitars/studio/trim3_zpse21b2b3b.jpg

http://i1073.photobucket.com/albums/w382/rugerpc/Guitars/studio/trim4_zps8d759fad.jpg

http://i1073.photobucket.com/albums/w382/rugerpc/Guitars/studio/trim6_zps30857c53.jpg

Some of the interior door frames had to be shimmed...

http://i1073.photobucket.com/albums/w382/rugerpc/Guitars/studio/trim5_zps1f8d609f.jpg

Then up went the clamshell and baseboard...

http://i1073.photobucket.com/albums/w382/rugerpc/Guitars/studio/trim7.jpg

themike
09-25-2012, 09:52 AM
Im seriously surprised at how anxious I am getting for this! Its not even my studio! hahah

Fox77
09-25-2012, 10:27 AM
Wow, what an amazing job you did. Can I hire you if I ever manage to get a house for grown-ups? :)

watelessness
09-25-2012, 11:37 AM
Theater blanket, resilient channel, 1 pound rubber...

rugerpc
09-25-2012, 04:24 PM
Im seriously surprised at how anxious I am getting for this! Its not even my studio! hahah

Thanks, Mike/ Look for the badge you made me in an upcoming pic! :)


Wow, what an amazing job you did. Can I hire you if I ever manage to get a house for grown-ups? :)

It has been a long, long journey. I started the basement three years ago. This is the final room.


Theater blanket, resilient channel, 1 pound rubber...

Okay.....

Not sure how to respond to that, primarily because I have no clue what you are talking about,,,,

brentrocks
09-25-2012, 07:15 PM
Looking good ruger!!!

rugerpc
09-26-2012, 12:27 PM
Trim taped and painted:

http://i1073.photobucket.com/albums/w382/rugerpc/Guitars/studio/paint3.jpg

http://i1073.photobucket.com/albums/w382/rugerpc/Guitars/studio/paint4.jpg

removing tape:

http://i1073.photobucket.com/albums/w382/rugerpc/Guitars/studio/paint5.jpg

One place needed a bit more attention:

http://i1073.photobucket.com/albums/w382/rugerpc/Guitars/studio/catdoor1.jpg

We have 2 furballs. I hid the litterbox behind a wall covering the heater. I could have mounted the door higher, but then it would have been too much of a stepover for the cats... It was easiyh enough to cope the baseboard and finish with caulk.

http://i1073.photobucket.com/albums/w382/rugerpc/Guitars/studio/catdoor2.jpg

http://i1073.photobucket.com/albums/w382/rugerpc/Guitars/studio/catdoor3.jpg

rugerpc
09-26-2012, 12:30 PM
The finished window:

http://i1073.photobucket.com/albums/w382/rugerpc/Guitars/studio/window3.jpg

The closet getting a shelf. You can see the laser level which was very useful for many parts of the project, like getting a level ceiling hung.

http://i1073.photobucket.com/albums/w382/rugerpc/Guitars/studio/closet2.jpg

http://i1073.photobucket.com/albums/w382/rugerpc/Guitars/studio/closet3.jpg

http://i1073.photobucket.com/albums/w382/rugerpc/Guitars/studio/closet4.jpg

Lots of room to spare :)

http://i1073.photobucket.com/albums/w382/rugerpc/Guitars/studio/closet5.jpg

Shawn@PRS
09-26-2012, 12:55 PM
looking good!

sergiodeblanc
09-26-2012, 01:19 PM
The cat-box is the coolest thing I have ever seen!

rugerpc
09-30-2012, 12:50 PM
The door through the wall for the cat's pan way my squeeze's idea. I have to say it is one of the coolest little extras the basement has seen.

Consider this post a heads up for some new pics soon of the finished room with stuff in it. I'm arranging and re-arranging amps and drums and desk parts. I started with a pretty big room and it suddenly shrunk!

markie
10-01-2012, 09:29 AM
http://i1073.photobucket.com/albums/w382/rugerpc/Guitars/studio/closet5.jpg



Plenty of room to expand here.................................. I like it :biggrin:

rugerpc
10-01-2012, 09:52 AM
Plenty of room to expand here.................................. I like it :biggrin:

I had to raise the drop ceiling 1 inch to get enough clearance for the shelf and guitars on top. It took me 20 minutes to get the "drop in" fluorescent fixture in there because that 1" gobbled up all of my ceiling wiggle room.

And while there is room in the closet, I'm finding that room in the room itself is at a premium with all the things I want to stuff in there... pics soon

markie
10-01-2012, 10:42 AM
I had to raise the drop ceiling 1 inch to get enough clearance for the shelf and guitars on top. It took me 20 minutes to get the "drop in" fluorescent fixture in there because that 1" gobbled up all of my ceiling wiggle room.

And while there is room in the closet, I'm finding that room in the room itself is at a premium with all the things I want to stuff in there... pics soon




Do you have room for a thin pc. of carpet on the foor? That hardwood floor sure is beautiful...............................:eek:

rugerpc
10-01-2012, 10:45 AM
Do you have room for a thin pc. of carpet on the foor? That hardwood floor sure is beautiful...............................:eek:

Yeah - I'm going to get a couple more of the runners I used on the shelf to protect the floor as I slide cases in and out...

Shawn@PRS
10-01-2012, 10:49 AM
You need the obligatory Persian rug for the main part of the room.

Rosewoodsteel
10-01-2012, 11:05 AM
I've been framed!!
That's the sump pump in the far right corner - a challenge to design around itself...


-Cant' believe what a fantastic job you have done!
I'm sure you've already thought of it, but just in case, a battery back up to the sump pump might be a good insurance policy for all the work you have done. :)

markie
10-01-2012, 11:21 AM
-Cant' believe what a fantastic job you have done!
I'm sure you've already thought of it, but just in case, a battery back up to the sump pump might be a good insurance policy for all the work you have done. :)



Exactly, My battery back-up has come into play more than once!

rugerpc
10-01-2012, 11:36 AM
You need the obligatory Persian rug for the main part of the room.

I have a wacky rug from IKEA that looks like a cross between a waveform and a Jackson Pollock painting....


-Cant' believe what a fantastic job you have done!
I'm sure you've already thought of it, but just in case, a battery back up to the sump pump might be a good insurance policy for all the work you have done. :)


Exactly, My battery back-up has come into play more than once!

Fortunately our lot is kinda hilltop and well graded. The major action for the sump is the condensation tube from the air conditioner. The next thing I really do have to put in there is a fan for radon. There already is an exit pipe to the roof. Why the builder didn't install the fan is a mystery since he did put in the pipe to vent the fan... :o

soundbee
10-01-2012, 01:22 PM
Looks great... Just one question ... Pink walls????

I spent a night in a "Pepto Bismol" pink holding cell in Boston once - long story, not very exciting. But to this day I get weirded out by pink walls.

rugerpc
10-01-2012, 02:18 PM
Looks great... Just one question ... Pink walls????

I spent a night in a "Pepto Bismol" pink holding cell in Boston once - long story, not very exciting. But to this day I get weirded out by pink walls.

OUCH!

NOOOOOO!

That is Behr (Home Depot) "Regal" 760A-3

http://cache.vendaria.com/integration/images/ct/35/VpopHTML.html?bg=D6D7A5&nm=BZOpener&err=0&title=Demo&pf=t&fr=t&iid=jmIkUFkQcffdQVeUajbacdkfffaijkQgQji&ap=sys_homedepot_uid_202182635&uid=202182635&cf=3000&purl=sys_homedepot_uid_202182635

It is a warm very light brown.

soundbee
10-01-2012, 03:46 PM
ah - more brown / fleshy color. That's much better. Flashbacks averted. ;-)

Mike Duncan
10-01-2012, 04:03 PM
We can we come over to play?

rugerpc
10-01-2012, 07:01 PM
ah - more brown / fleshy color. That's much better. Flashbacks averted. ;-)

Crisis averted. No soundbees were harmed during the painting of this room...


We can we come over to play?

I'm posting 'ready-for-playtime' pics tomorrow.

Rango
10-01-2012, 10:40 PM
We can we come over to play?

ME TOO! :D

Great project! :D

rugerpc
10-02-2012, 08:31 AM
{insert fanfare music here}

I started on this last room on August 1 - and here it is October 1. That's not too bad for a project that has to fit into a normal work schedule... Evenings and weekends are where the work was done.

Here are the photos I have been waiting for!

http://i1073.photobucket.com/albums/w382/rugerpc/Guitars/studio/paint6.jpg

http://i1073.photobucket.com/albums/w382/rugerpc/Guitars/studio/paint7.jpg

The neon came from a local wing bar that closed - picked it all up at auction. The Ravens neon was the real prize - I had wanted that piece ever since I first saw it in the bar 5 years ago or so.

Putting together the modular desk I made in 1978. No nails or screws - just dowel pins so I can take it apart.

http://i1073.photobucket.com/albums/w382/rugerpc/Guitars/studio/desk1.jpg

http://i1073.photobucket.com/albums/w382/rugerpc/Guitars/studio/desk2.jpg

The new room stuffed to the gills:

http://i1073.photobucket.com/albums/w382/rugerpc/Guitars/studio/crowded1.jpg

http://i1073.photobucket.com/albums/w382/rugerpc/Guitars/studio/crowded2.jpg

If it is too bright, I can always play by the soft glow of the neon alone...

http://i1073.photobucket.com/albums/w382/rugerpc/Guitars/studio/glow1.jpg

http://i1073.photobucket.com/albums/w382/rugerpc/Guitars/studio/glow2.jpg

My Forum badge from themike is proudly displayed :)

themike
10-02-2012, 08:35 AM
HAHAHA NICE! Dude it looks awesome! Becareful with the neon signs, you might get some hum from them :)

It came out amazing.

rugerpc
10-02-2012, 08:36 AM
HAHAHA NICE! Dude it looks awesome! Becareful with the neon signs, you might get some hum from them :)

It came out amazing.

Thanks, Mike. The neon is all on one wall switch - I can turn it off for recording.

south89
10-02-2012, 08:42 AM
Pretty impressive to see from start to finish. Congrats on the new space but by the looks of things you already are in need of an expansion :D

Shawn@PRS
10-02-2012, 09:09 AM
That Ravens sign is the shizznitt!

rugerpc
10-02-2012, 09:13 AM
That Ravens sign is the shizznitt!

:) I thought that might your attention, Shawn!

http://i1073.photobucket.com/albums/w382/rugerpc/Guitars/studio/RavensNeon1.jpg

james
10-02-2012, 09:20 AM
:) I thought that might your attention, Shawn!

http://i1073.photobucket.com/albums/w382/rugerpc/Guitars/studio/RavensNeon1.jpg

room ruined.

*locks thread*

rugerpc
10-02-2012, 09:26 AM
Now James, don't get pissy because it's not the Deadskins or the Squeelers....

Shawn@PRS
10-02-2012, 09:28 AM
CAW!

rugerpc
10-02-2012, 10:06 AM
Before and after pics next....

Rosewoodsteel
10-02-2012, 12:25 PM
Fantastic!

rugerpc
10-02-2012, 03:32 PM
Some before and after...

Here is a view from what will become the hall into the studio, before and after:

http://i1073.photobucket.com/albums/w382/rugerpc/Guitars/studio/before1.jpg

http://i1073.photobucket.com/albums/w382/rugerpc/Guitars/studio/after1.jpg

A view through the shop wall into the studio. The near pole is buried in the shop wall and the 2 far poles are in the hallway wall. Before and after:

http://i1073.photobucket.com/albums/w382/rugerpc/Guitars/studio/before2.jpg

http://i1073.photobucket.com/albums/w382/rugerpc/Guitars/studio/crowded1.jpg

The double doors by the new closet. Note the concrete floor, the half insulation, inadequate security and the lack of any ceiling... Before and after:

http://i1073.photobucket.com/albums/w382/rugerpc/Guitars/studio/before3.jpg

http://i1073.photobucket.com/albums/w382/rugerpc/Guitars/studio/after3.jpg

Now with upgraded handle lock, deadbolt, iron bar into the concrete, alarm and a couple of other things I won't divulge...

Rango
10-02-2012, 06:08 PM
Outstanding result :D

I see the TD-20, you a drummer too?

Mikegarveyblues
10-02-2012, 06:15 PM
Great job, looks absolutely fantastic!

What music software are you running?

rugerpc
10-02-2012, 09:09 PM
Outstanding result :D

I see the TD-20, you a drummer too?

I have been playing drums since 1964....

The acoustic set is in their cases. It is a 1971 Ludwig in 'psychedelic red' with Paiste cymbals. A true classic.

I have only been seriously trying my hand at guitar for about 6 years.

rugerpc
10-02-2012, 09:10 PM
Great job, looks absolutely fantastic!

What music software are you running?

Digital performer with MOTU FireWire interfaces to the Mac

rugerpc
10-02-2012, 09:15 PM
Can you see my tuxedo Sweet 16? It is #5 off the production line. :)

butterfly
10-03-2012, 09:43 AM
Unbelievable work rugerpc! It is amazing!!

(can you come over to my house next?)

rugerpc
10-03-2012, 10:40 AM
Pretty impressive to see from start to finish. Congrats on the new space but by the looks of things you already are in need of an expansion :D

The room shrank when I started putting stuff in there - fortunately, it has everything in it I want at the moment except a couple of comfy chairs...


Fantastic!


Unbelievable work rugerpc! It is amazing!!

(can you come over to my house next?)

Thanks guys. I can't stop looking at the pics myself. I sit here in my office and look at the pics of the studio at home. I'm sure that that reveals something psychologically unflattering, but I'm not sure what...

Anyone want a run-down on the tools used? (Tim Allen grunt here...)

markie
10-03-2012, 10:14 PM
Outstanding work muh-man!

Herr Squid
10-07-2012, 08:52 PM
Stunning work! Just fantastic!!

Dirty Bob
10-07-2012, 09:32 PM
Dude that is awesome! This whole thread rocks!

rugerpc
10-10-2012, 12:43 PM
Before I go all Tim Allan on you, I had to start in the very beginning.

The basement was a big project. Though I can conceptualize pretty well in my head, I know from other projects that I can get a better plan if I actually make a plan.

So, some measuring and drawing were the first order of business. Even rough sketches help nail down details that are only finalized as you are actually putting up walls.

http://i1073.photobucket.com/albums/w382/rugerpc/Guitars/studio/tools/plan.jpg

rugerpc
10-21-2012, 05:21 PM
Measure and mark...

My main measuring tool was a 30' Lufkin rule. For longer bits, where I was planning hallways and general room locations, I used a 100' tape. But the Lufkin was the workhorse here.

I used the plumbob in the near right for one wall before I realized how much it would slow me down and bought the 3 axis laser level in the center of the pic. I ended up using it for the layout of almost everything in the basement from the walls to the ceilings to the shelves in the closet. Simply indispensable.

Also indispensable: levels, steel rules, framing square, speed square, chalk line, drywall T square, surveyor's string, telephone twine, voltage sensor and outlet tester. The telephone twine has a sticky wax coating which lets you secure a line just by wrapping a couple turns around a nail ore something - no knot needed - thus speedy and un-doable. It does tend to get interesting when discovered by a long-haired cat as the larger cat and I found out. It only took an hour to free him....

And of course marking things like pencils, Sharpies and paint and Post-Its.

http://i1073.photobucket.com/albums/w382/rugerpc/Guitars/studio/tools/MeasureNmark.jpg

Albrecht Smuten
11-05-2012, 03:14 AM
This studio is incredible, Bill!!! :congrats:
You must have done this before, right? ;)

And the middle screen looks familiar...

http://i1073.photobucket.com/albums/w382/rugerpc/Guitars/studio/crowded2.jpg

south89
12-12-2012, 01:27 PM
So I remembered this thread from some time ago and wanted to share pics of my basement studio with everyone also but didn't have photos at the time but I have a couple to share. I don't think its as nice as the others but it makes me happy :biggrin:
http://i1062.photobucket.com/albums/t490/MAlvord71/P1020523.jpg
http://i1062.photobucket.com/albums/t490/MAlvord71/P1020524.jpg
http://i1062.photobucket.com/albums/t490/MAlvord71/P1020525.jpg
http://i1062.photobucket.com/albums/t490/MAlvord71/P1020527.jpg

rugerpc
12-12-2012, 01:34 PM
Cool - all those cables reminds me of a pic I saw of the Beatles - I'll have to hunt it up.

I suppose I could post the rest of the tool pics I started to post too...

edit - found it. The Beatles in Paris on 6/20/1965

http://i1073.photobucket.com/albums/w382/rugerpc/Just%20for%20fun/Beatles62065Paris.jpg

south89
12-12-2012, 01:50 PM
Cool - all those cables reminds me of a pic I saw of the Beatles - I'll have to hunt it up.

I suppose I could post the rest of the tool pics I started to post too...

edit - found it. The Beatles in Paris on 6/20/1965

http://i1073.photobucket.com/albums/w382/rugerpc/Just%20for%20fun/Beatles62065Paris.jpg

Yea I know its a mess right because I am in the middle of recording so I have a bunch of mics on the drums right now . That pic is cool though

rugerpc
12-12-2012, 03:00 PM
That pic is cool though

I found one that measures 14.2 x 9.6 inches - I'm gonna take it home to the big printer and make a glossy to frame for the studio...