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ExpatGirl
09-03-2012, 05:42 AM
Hi Guys,
Can anyone tell me about the PRS CE 24? When were they offered, what do they sound like, how are they regarded, that sort of thing. You guys know and love PRS instruments, so I figure if anyone knows it'll be you guys.

Cheers!

MojoPin
09-03-2012, 09:32 AM
I can't quite remember when exactly they were discontinued, but generally they were regarded very highly and known for having plenty of PRS tone with just a little bit of Fender snap and sparkle on top. My guitar teacher had one, and it was absolutely stunning. Really articulate and capable of covering a lot of different genres. Still one of my favourite PRS models, and I really liked the 'hot hues' colours they did on the most recent run (think it was about 2004 it was brought back). I'm always keeping my eye on the second-hand market to try and snag one for a good price, but I'd love to them brought back someday.

Drew
09-03-2012, 10:09 AM
I had a 20th in blazing copper that I bought NOS and eventually sold. It's a good value. It's a very dark and midrangy guitar. For that reason, I found it a bit limiting in terms of styles but what it did match with, it did well. The HFS bridge pickup was one of those love/hate relationships for me. One day I wouldn't be able to put the guitar down and the next I'd pick it up for 2 seconds and swear I was going to sell it. I did, eventually, but for other non-guitar related reasons. One thing I was never a fan of was the finish on the maple neck. It got pretty tacky at times. Personally, i believe maple necks should have no finish and just oil/wax but that's just my opinion. They are a good workhorse rocker type guitar and the prices on the used market are pretty good now. If you have the opportunity to add one, I'd recommend it.

vchizzle
09-03-2012, 10:41 AM
There are a few variations of the CE that you should be aware of. 24 and 22 fret models.
There are:
mahogany back/maple top
solid mahogany body
solid alder body
alder body/maple top

I think the alder body came 1st and in mid 90's they maybe switched to mahogany. I think around that same time the swamp ash special came out in '96 or '97.

They started out early on as the "Classic Electric" I believe. I think they are the closest bridge between strat and LP, leaning closer to the strat side. Depends a lot on whether you like bolt on or set neck guitars more. I think they're great bolt on guitars, I prefer set neck a bit more but if I want that sound, I wouldn't hesitate grabbing a CE. Great guitars that can be had at a really nice price at times. I'm no CE expert, hopefully someone who knows more pops in with some opinions.

Em7
09-03-2012, 12:47 PM
The CE was first introduced in 1988. The first CEs where known simply as the "PRS Electric." Peavey held a common law trademark the word "Classic," so the name was shorted to CE.

http://vintageprsguitars.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/05/CE24LEAD.jpg

The original CEs had all-alder bodies. PRS added a multi-piece maple top as an option in 1989. The conversion over to being a full-blown poor man's Custom occurred in 1995 when PRS started offering the CE with a mahogany back.

As an aside: I remember a particularly special early CE 24 that Master Musicians had in stock when their Annapolis store was located just down the street from the PRS Virginia Ave shop. The body was all black except for the masked binding. That guitar sang, but I could not bring myself to shell out $899.00 for bolt-on PRS when I could pay $1299.00 for a stripped-down set-neck PRS. I have kicked myself for almost two and a half decades for not buying that guitar. If I were to purchase a CE, it would have be in the original 1988 configuration. I am hoping that PRS offers a special twenty-five year anniversary run of the original "PRS Electric" in 2013.

slev
09-03-2012, 12:54 PM
CE24 is a great guitar. I've got one with a maple cap and 59/09s and I use it when I want a more straty tone, handles Mayeresque tones really well. It does the full on HB just fine and is a bit brighter than a CU24 because of the maple neck IMO. Great value, very flexible guitar. I had a CE22 a while back with DIIs and that was great instrument as well. I agree with Drew and vchizzle, most people like them and they are a great value.

CantankerousCarl
09-03-2012, 12:58 PM
ExpatGirl - There are many CE fans out here...myself included. Expect much love! I am so utterly enamored with my 1990 CE24 that I would be hard-pressed to pick that or my Siggy in the "burning building - save one" scenario.

My CE is the loudest, brashest (but not in a bad way) guitar I own, and sounds amazing. It's alder bodied (as are all pre-95 I believe) with the mahogany top, and has the most comfortable WT neck I have ever played. I don't have a mahogany CE24 to compare it to, but I do have my 93 all-mahogany STD24, and this is like a "goes to 11" version of that, with more mids, highs and grit. The single coil tones are a little thicker / strat-like than what you have on your SECU24, but the overall tone of the guitar is in a similar spectrum (but much more vintage sounding).

The quality on the CEs are just as amazing as any other PRS, and as you can get them for under a grand, they are a great buy. I will have another...someday ;)

sergiodeblanc
09-03-2012, 01:08 PM
I'm letting other people go first this time before I get on my soapbox. Em7, PRS already reissued the original alder design back in 2008(?), but I like your thinking!

Em7
09-03-2012, 01:51 PM
I'm letting other people go first this time before I get on my soapbox. Em7, PRS already reissued the original alder design back in 2008(?), but I like your thinking!

Yes, but if I am not mistaken, PRS reissued the alder-bodied CE24 in the rotary knob plus HFS/Vintage Bass format, which is not the original configuration. The original CEs shipped with a toggle switch that had a metal bat (or at least a metal tip). If I recall correctly, the original CEs also shipped with Standard Treble and Standard Bass pickups. The switch over to using the HFS/Vintage bass combination in the CEs did not occur until the early nineties.

sergiodeblanc
09-03-2012, 02:31 PM
Yeah, with the T&B pup's available again it would make a nice addition to their "throwback" series, but I suppose the PRS "Fender vibe" is pretty full right now. I always thought of the CE as the ultimate superstrat but without the goofy looks.
Have you seen the small run for the Japanese market? I swear I need to move there!http://i1153.photobucket.com/albums/p506/sergiodeblanc/000.jpg

ExpatGirl
09-03-2012, 02:42 PM
Yeah, with the T&B pup's available again it would make a nice addition to their "throwback" series, but I suppose the PRS "Fender vibe" is pretty full right now. I always thought of the CE as the ultimate superstrat but without the goofy looks.
Have you seen the small run for the Japanese market? I swear I need to move there!http://i1153.photobucket.com/albums/p506/sergiodeblanc/000.jpg

Wow. Apart from the pink (and I'm a girl!), wow. That is stunning.

ExpatGirl
09-03-2012, 02:43 PM
So would I be correct in thinking that the CE 24 is capable of producing some nice Strat-esque tones?

Em7
09-03-2012, 02:57 PM
So would I be correct in thinking that the CE 24 is capable of producing some nice Strat-esque tones?

If you are looking for Strat-like tones from a PRS guitar, you are better off looking at a Swamp Ash Special, 305, or a DC3.

sergiodeblanc
09-03-2012, 03:19 PM
If you are looking for Strat-like tones from a PRS guitar, you are better off looking at a Swamp Ash Special, 305, or a DC3.
Agreed, but it does have some of the in-between Strat-esque tones, with a heavy emphasis on "esque" part. If you are looking for Fender bridge or neck tones you are better off looking elsewhere.

Pink is for boys.

CantankerousCarl
09-03-2012, 04:23 PM
If you are looking for Fender bridge or neck tones you are better off looking elsewhere.

Like maybe an SE EG!, for those on a budget...although the set WF mahogany neck i am sure mellow out the sound if you a/b it with a real strat.

ExpatGirl
09-03-2012, 05:01 PM
If you are looking for Strat-like tones from a PRS guitar, you are better off looking at a Swamp Ash Special, 305, or a DC3.

What about the NF3? Would that fall in the same category as these three guitars? I'm a little gunshy of the NF3 as it and the SE Orianthi are both made of korina. I didn't care for the tone of the Orianthi at all.

slev
09-03-2012, 07:06 PM
The NF pickups in the PRS Studio with the coil tapped 57/08 in the bridge position are some of the best in between strat tones out there. The CE24 does a nice job with these as well, you'd be even closer with the CE if you change out the rotary knob for the McCarty wiring (three way toggle and push-pull coil tap tone knob). The CEs are a good example of the flexibility that comes with most PRS guitars, that's why many of us are devoted followers. It's nice to have one guitar that can do a lot of different tones.

Bill SAS 513
09-04-2012, 07:17 AM
What about the NF3? Would that fall in the same category as these three guitars? I'm a little gunshy of the NF3 as it and the SE Orianthi are both made of korina. I didn't care for the tone of the Orianthi at all.

Just picked up an NF3 and was extermely pleased with the various tones available. Bolt-on maple neck and FB, and these PUs really do come close to strat tones, but (forgive the extremely over-used term)...on Steroids. Following suit of the SAS, and swamp-ash 513, these are all extremly versatile packages. Of course, based on versatility, my "deserted island" pick would be a 513.

ExpatGirl
09-04-2012, 02:35 PM
Just picked up an NF3 and was extermely pleased with the various tones available. Bolt-on maple neck and FB, and these PUs really do come close to strat tones, but (forgive the extremely over-used term)...on Steroids. Following suit of the SAS, and swamp-ash 513, these are all extremly versatile packages. Of course, based on versatility, my "deserted island" pick would be a 513.

Thanks very much, Bill. The NF3 is on my short list of guitars I'd like to get next. These instruments really are like potato chips, you just have to save up a lot to get the next bag. :)

BlackMoons
09-04-2012, 03:31 PM
The CE was first introduced in 1988. The first CEs where known simply as the "PRS Electric." Peavey held a common law trademark the word "Classic," so the name was shorted to CE.

The original CEs had all-alder bodies. PRS added a multi-piece maple top as an option in 1989. The conversion over to being a full-blown poor man's Custom occurred in 1995 when PRS started offering the CE with a mahogany back.

As an aside: I remember a particularly special early CE 24 that Master Musicians had in stock when their Annapolis store was located just down the street from the PRS Virginia Ave shop. The body was all black except for the masked binding. That guitar sang, but I could not bring myself to shell out $899.00 for bolt-on PRS when I could pay $1299.00 for a stripped-down set-neck PRS. I have kicked myself for almost two and half decades for not buying that guitar. If I were to purchase a CE, it would have be in the original 1988 configuration. I am hoping that PRS offers a special twenty-five year anniversary run of the original "PRS Electric" in 2013.

I've got a first year alder CE 24 that meets that description. It was confirmed by Orkie, who worked on it at the factory, and again years later for me. It screams, and is the easiest playing PRS in my collection. Thinking of letting it go to fund a new PRS amp.

http://www.torpedoroom.com/BaM/parquet/1988 Black CE 24.jpg

sergiodeblanc
09-04-2012, 10:43 PM
I've got a first year alder CE 24 that meets that description. It was confirmed by Orkie, who worked on it at the factory, and again years later for me. It screams, and is the easiest playing PRS in my collection. Thinking of letting it go to fund a new PRS amp.

http://www.torpedoroom.com/BaM/parquet/1988 Black CE 24.jpg

Did you put covers on the pup's? I haven't seen T&B's with them before. Bangin' guitar, no amplifier is worth it.

CE-man
09-05-2012, 12:25 AM
What can be said here that hasn't already been said other than the CE-24 is a rocking guitar that can give you both nice single coil and humbucking tones at a great price. I would recommend one but that would mean fewer for me so buy a Custom instead.


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BlackMoons
09-05-2012, 08:22 AM
Did you put covers on the pup's? I haven't seen T&B's with them before. Bangin' guitar, no amplifier is worth it.

No, I didn't. Orkie pulled everything apart and said it was kosher. That bridge pickup just screams for days. I've got a pretty solid collection with a lot of PRS models represented, and would love to use the CE to help fund an "H" amp.

Greg
09-28-2012, 07:55 AM
I've had my '94 CE24 for years, wide thin neck and stunning Tortiseshell maple top. it was the only PRS that called to me when I went into the dealer.
Plays brilliant and sounds great, and lighter than a lot of my other guitars, it's my main go to.
:top:

David Eaton
09-28-2012, 09:23 AM
I bought this one as a leftover from a "B" stock sale that Chuck Levin's had in 1991:

http://i270.photobucket.com/albums/jj97/eaton1967/IMG_0098.jpg

I had the three way switched to a 5-way by Phil Jacoby about ten years ago. As for the pickups, I have no idea:

neck:
http://i270.photobucket.com/albums/jj97/eaton1967/IMG_1130.jpg

bridge:
http://i270.photobucket.com/albums/jj97/eaton1967/IMG_1125.jpg

It's a very nice guitar that I don't play nearly enough...though my 8 year old was playing it the other day...maybe that'll continue.

Just for good measure, I ordered this one in 99, it now has DGT pickups in it...amazing:
http://i270.photobucket.com/albums/jj97/eaton1967/IMG_0103.jpg

AHHAdesign
04-04-2013, 11:24 AM
Hi Guys,
Can anyone tell me about the PRS CE 24? When were they offered, what do they sound like, how are they regarded, that sort of thing. You guys know and love PRS instruments, so I figure if anyone knows it'll be you guys.

Cheers!

Hi, I'm new here [and late with this] but may be able to shed a little more light.

I've got a used 2001 CE-24. The CE came loaded with Dragon II pups and everything else was stock. I did a lot of digging as the Dragon II's seemed to be a rare installation on a CE-24. PRS did them on the CE-22. Usually, you get the HFS or Vintage pups both of which are very good.

Someone made a comment about the guitar being very midrange focused, tonally. I have to agree with the caveat that using the tone/volume controls and having your amp set at the proper height alleviates this. The pickups really can sing in a very biting but not cuttingly sharp manner. Twist up/down the tone/volume pots and the guitar can go from lead screamer to powerful rhythm in a second. The pickup selector does take some getting used to using... I'm still, after a year, working on it but mostly this is due to my lack of time to focus on wringing out the tones and volumes I want. Life gets in the way of playing... :-) I have my Roland combo amp set up on a small table about .5m [1.5ft] off the ground and sit down nearby with the amp facing at a slight angle away from my face so that sound from the edge of the cone is what really strikes my ear. I have the bass/mid controls set at about 3-3.5 with the treble at about 6.5-7 [on a scale of 1-10 not 11, Nigel] and I can get the guitar to go from dark and dirty to bright, smooth and silky depending on what I do with the vol/tone pots.

So, how does my CE-24 compare to other PRSs? I've played nearly everything they make and the only one I really got stuck on was the Hollowbody II. Holy mackerel! What a monster. I played three SE's including two hollowbodies and just hated the way they felt. I thought they were setup incorrectly, then I played my friend's lovely custom 22. It felt almost the same: like a wet noodle. This friend has been playing since before I was born [literally] and is one of the best musicians I've ever heard. If he didn't suffer from stage fright, he could have been a professional at a very high caliber: he's played with Ginger Baker many times and his brother played on The Seager Sessions with Springsteen. That's the level I'm mean. So.... his guitar is hot but I just didn't like the way it felt. His 65 Gibson SG Jr is a dream to play so I'm not sure what the deal is with the PRS... it just felt like the wet noodle SEs I played. The CU-22 and 24 were very nice but I wasn't keen on the neck heel which seems to be a common complaint with that design. PRS has addressed this at various times but seem to favor the longer heel for I guess the sake of not having to worry too much about snapping the neck. I've seen some HB's with a much smaller and angled heel and they should play better at the higher registers.

What does this all mean to you? For me, the CE is a steal of a guitar. It's been called a sleeper, a bargain, more bang for the buck and I agree.

HOWEVER, I liked the hollowbody so much that I am trying to figure out how to afford one of these ungodly expensive monsters. They are, if you can figure out how to get the money, absolutely worth the pain. It is the only guitar I would break my leg to buy and I've got some and played some fairly nice instruments [just wish I could do them justice :-) ]... the hollowbody II is just head and shoulders above everything else including my all-time favorite ES-355 in white just like Alex Lifeson's.

My 2... more like a dollar.

Cheers~ AHHA

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04-04-2013, 01:56 PM
^^^^ Awesome 1st post ^^^^

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