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]-[ @ n $ 0 |v| a T !
09-22-2012, 11:01 AM
I heard a rumor about this amp. Is it true? If so, is it a 1-off from CAD? Is it really called "The Perfect 10"?

I WANT ONE!

LSchefman
09-22-2012, 12:49 PM
Not sure what I'd do with an amp like that, but it does sound like fun.

WEDGE
09-22-2012, 01:02 PM
Hans don't tease me........I would jump on a small low wattage fire breather! :rock:

slev
09-22-2012, 02:17 PM
Hans don't tease me........I would jump on a small low wattage fire breather! :rock:

Amen to that. Not too many quality amps out there in that category.

yankeebulldog
09-22-2012, 04:57 PM
Had a Sewell Blistertone with EL84s. It was loud and dirty. Wonder if it's a variation on that?

Boogie
09-22-2012, 05:15 PM
I heard something similar. Might have been from you...maybe not. Regardless, I wonder if it's a result of the Grissom collaboration? :rolleyes:

Daniel
09-23-2012, 12:03 AM
Hmmmm. Here's a 15 watt EL84 amp. I wonder if there's any similarity? These normaly have 6l6s (6v6s?) but Doug told me the guy who ordered this one wanted EL84s. I think he said it was the only Texaverb he made like this.

http://a3.ec-images.myspacecdn.com/images02/53/f42df3cfef5d463e82bcb8abdb7db4cc/l.jpg

http://a3.ec-images.myspacecdn.com/images02/150/487a4f8f3f8940c5a7a2244fe4a159d0/l.jpg

WEDGE
09-23-2012, 05:46 AM
Hmmmm. Here's a 15 watt EL84 amp. I wonder if there's any similarity? These normaly have 6l6s (6v6s?) but Doug told me the guy who ordered this one wanted EL84s. I think he said it was the only Texaverb he made like this.

http://a3.ec-images.myspacecdn.com/images02/53/f42df3cfef5d463e82bcb8abdb7db4cc/l.jpg

http://a3.ec-images.myspacecdn.com/images02/150/487a4f8f3f8940c5a7a2244fe4a159d0/l.jpg


Is this a high gain or vintage toned amp?

Mikegarveyblues
09-23-2012, 06:07 AM
-[ @ n $ 0 |v| a T ! ;23266']I heard a rumor about this amp. Is it true? If so, is it a 1-off from CAD? Is it really called "The Perfect 10"?

I WANT ONE!

I'd be interested in that... Maybe scalable down to 1 watt...

Like my Laney for home recording but some of the PRS amps are sounding very, very good!

Daniel
09-24-2012, 11:50 PM
Is this a high gain or vintage toned amp?

I know it's just me but I've never fully understood that question. Whenever someone tells me an amp sounds "vintage" all I hear is an unbalanced sound with muddy bottoms and missing mids. This amp has plenty of gain and gets nicely distorted when you roll up the volume (gain) control. Think 70s-80s rock. It is not a gain monster like a Soldano. This amp has plenty of clean head-room and it's easy to find that sweet spot (a range , really) where the distortion is easily controlled with the guitar volume leaving the amp settings alone. In contrast with an amp of the same wattage and control layout, my Soldano Astroverb has nothing but gain and virtually no clean tones even when you substitute a 12at7 (12au7?) for one of the 12ax7 preamp tubes (which I was told would lower the gain and yield more clean headroom).

WEDGE
09-25-2012, 05:53 AM
I know it's just me but I've never fully understood that question. Whenever someone tells me an amp sounds "vintage" all I hear is an unbalanced sound with muddy bottoms and missing mids. This amp has plenty of gain and gets nicely distorted when you roll up the volume (gain) control. Think 70s-80s rock. It is not a gain monster like a Soldano. This amp has plenty of clean head-room and it's easy to find that sweet spot (a range , really) where the distortion is easily controlled with the guitar volume leaving the amp settings alone. In contrast with an amp of the same wattage and control layout, my Soldano Astroverb has nothing but gain and virtually no clean tones even when you substitute a 12at7 (12au7?) for one of the 12ax7 preamp tubes (which I was told would lower the gain and yield more clean headroom).

I liken it to the sweet 16 amp......when I hear a demo of it cranked up all the way all I hear is maybe an AC/DC tone, but my Blistertone rages well past that tonally into an 80's type chunky saturation. Hard to explain but know it when i hear and feel how it plays......Give me a small amp that does this and I sign up for one.

Buildermike
09-25-2012, 10:22 AM
Someone just posted on another forum that they brought one home from the Experience.

zebraprs
09-25-2012, 11:53 AM
wow! I never thought my post would generate this much attention . I did purchase a 10 what 112 combo at the experience . it is indeed a fire breathing 10 watch never heard amp like it .with the volume control diamond, I get a very gnarly ACDC type of overdrive where I can roll back the volume and get a very Chimey clean sound.

I welcome any and all questions on this amp I've been playing with it almost daily for the last 10 days

cosmic_ape
09-25-2012, 11:56 AM
Pictures or it didn't happen!

zebraprs
09-25-2012, 11:57 AM
by the way I named it my perfect 10. PRS has not come up with a name for this amp yet . or whether or not this will become a production model

]-[ @ n $ 0 |v| a T !
09-25-2012, 12:04 PM
wow! I never thought my post would generate this much attention.It didn't. :) I haven't been able to stop thinking about it since we talked about it at X:PRS:2012! :rock: I knew you were gigging it that evening and I have been waiting for you to post it here for all to enjoy. I got tired of waiting so I stared it for you. LOL

Now post some pics already!


by the way I named it my perfect 10. PRS has not come up with a name for this amp yet.
It doesn't matter. We tend to give things we like a nickname. "The perfect 10" is too good to ignore; especially for those of us who remember Bo Derek (in her prime).

By the way... here's that photo I promised you.

http://i227.photobucket.com/albums/dd272/hansomatic/XPRS2012/IMG_0203_zps8ee78b36.jpg

WEDGE
09-25-2012, 12:52 PM
wow! I never thought my post would generate this much attention . I did purchase a 10 what 112 combo at the experience . it is indeed a fire breathing 10 watch never heard amp like it .with the volume control diamond, I get a very gnarly ACDC type of overdrive where I can roll back the volume and get a very Chimey clean sound.

I welcome any and all questions on this amp I've been playing with it almost daily for the last 10 days

Master volume on this? What are the controls on this? Have reverb? I

know it is subjective but is the gain on this saturated or a crunchy type? I know this is hard to quantify, sound clips would be killer! I want a small amp that gets very dirty easy, not necessarily one that at its peak gets just a crunchy ac/dc semi-clean/dirt tone. These would sell like hotcakes if this is a high gainer...........also like that it is a 12 inch model, most small wattage amps get saddled with small speakers..

zebraprs
09-25-2012, 01:11 PM
I will record clips in the next day or 2 and post on the forum

LSchefman
09-25-2012, 01:54 PM
Whenever someone tells me an amp sounds "vintage" all I hear is an unbalanced sound with muddy bottoms and missing mids. This amp has plenty of gain and gets nicely distorted when you roll up the volume (gain) control. Think 70s-80s rock. It is not a gain monster like a Soldano.

After 30-40 years, 70s-80s rock is pretty vintage stuff!

When I think of vintage style amps, I think of amps like AC30s, BF Twins, Bassmans, Plexis, etc. But I tend to think of Tweed style vintage amps as a bit flubby on the bottom, so maybe that's the kind of thing you're thinking about when you hear "vintage." I'd agree.

I'd call a Soldano a more modern-toned amp for sure.

zebraprs
09-25-2012, 02:34 PM
Master volume on this? What are the controls on this? Have reverb? I

know it is subjective but is the gain on this saturated or a crunchy type? I know this is hard to quantify, sound clips would be killer! I want a small amp that gets very dirty easy, not necessarily one that at its peak gets just a crunchy ac/dc semi-clean/dirt tone. These would sell like hotcakes if this is a high gainer...........also like that it is a 12 inch model, most small wattage amps get saddled with small speakers..


Controls:

Volume, Reverb, Treble, Mid, Bass, & Presence
1x12 Sweet16 cab

it is more like a very crunchy gain... gets saturated enough with a boost ie. EP Booster

zebraprs
09-25-2012, 10:29 PM
Here are some clips i recorded today..
These clips were played on a 2009 PRS McCarty Smokeburst with 5708s

Amp settings
"Perfect 10"
V=10:00, R=10:00, T=2:00, M=12:00, B=5:00, P=2:00

2 Channel C LEAD Channel
V=1:00, T=2:00, M=1:00, B=12:00 MV=10:00

Clip 1= Perfect10
http://ryptyde.com/perfect10_1.mp3

Clip 2= Perfect10 with Slight OD
http://ryptyde.com/perfect10_2.mp3

Clip 3 = 2 Channel
http://ryptyde.com/2_channel_c.mp3

Clip 4 = Perfect10 rolling the volume down on the guitar.
http://ryptyde.com/perfect10_3.mp3

Here is a pic of how it I got it: (I put on the Perfect 10 Label)
http://ryptyde.com/perfect10.jpg

Here is how it will look once it is completed. (this is actually Nicky Moroch's amp)
http://ryptyde.com/sweet16plus.jpg

WEDGE
09-26-2012, 03:16 AM
I have an empty tuxedo sweet 16 head shell that is brand new if you ever decide you want to make a mini stack out of it.......

iahawk36
09-26-2012, 09:34 AM
So can these be ordered, because it sounds AWESOME!!!!

zebraprs
09-26-2012, 09:55 AM
I think they are looking into making a production version. it may not be handwired.. but I have not heard anything definitive... Mike Clark told me they are looking into making a less expensive unit..

]-[ @ n $ 0 |v| a T !
09-26-2012, 10:24 AM
I would love to hear that amp with rocking 408 or Archtop pickups - clean but dimed (no master in the circuit).

aduayer
09-26-2012, 11:00 AM
no master volume in a low wattage amp = sweet

Danerada
09-26-2012, 12:17 PM
-[ @ n $ 0 |v| a T ! ;23658']I would love to hear that amp with rocking 408 or Archtop pickups - clean but dimed (no master in the circuit).

+1000 to this!!!!

slev
10-06-2012, 12:56 PM
Maybe it's just me but that is a thick sounding EL84 circuit. Definitely not a chimey as my Mesa .22. Almost has a blended EL84-6V6 tone. Very cool.

cobrafast1
10-08-2012, 08:14 PM
If you're looking for a sweet little 10 - 20 watt Amp, try the Egnater Rebel 20. More power needed: try the 30. I've got an Egnater Rebel 20 I use just for jamming at friend's houses, so I don't have drag all my rack mount stuff which is all cabled to mixing boards and speaker systems in my home studio.

I use a backup Roctron Intellifex for the Reverb and effects, since the Egnater does not have a reverb, but does have a Send and Return path. That combo is easy to transport and quick to setup just for jamming or a practice session. It has both 6V6 and EL-84 tubes, so I can go all one way or the other or mix them. It drives two 12" Celestion Speakers and is awesome when cranked up or it can play crystal clean. It's really a nice setup.

Sometimes, I just don't want to uncable the rackmount gear and transport it. It's heavy and bulky and a bear to uncable and set back up again. The Egnater makes is so sweet and easy.

zebraprs
11-06-2012, 12:14 PM
I have an empty tuxedo sweet 16 head shell that is brand new if you ever decide you want to make a mini stack out of it.......

How much? Please send me a PM or email me zebraprs at comcast dot net...

zebraprs
11-06-2012, 12:33 PM
Just finished my speaker shootout. I tried the following speakers.
Vintage 30
Greenback 25
Black Shadow c90
WGS Green Beret
Cannibas Rex
Legend 50

zebraprs
11-06-2012, 12:36 PM
Just finished my speaker shootout. I tried the following speakers.
Vintage 30
Greenback 25
Black Shadow c90
WGS Green Beret
Cannibas Rex
Legend 50

Leaning torwards the Greenback with V30 & Green Beret close behind.