PDA

View Full Version : 1957/2008 McCarty...I think I'm in trouble here



vchizzle
11-30-2012, 10:27 PM
I stumbled across a used 1957/2008 today hung high on a wall at GC. Good condition, one very small ding on the top near the neck pickup. Blueberry quilt. Now, I'm not real big on that color, but this one has faded and I love how it looks. I forgot these were nitro(many are way too sticky feeling for me)...in fact, I never would've guessed by playing it...so let's get to that...

The guitar played great, sounded great at moderately lowish volumes. Played it through a Mesa Royal Atlantic head/Marshall cab. The thing that kind of struck me was that I just wanted to sit there and keep playing it. That doesn't happen to me all the time - ESPECIALLY at a relatively noisy music store. I typically hate playing at stores unless there's a "boom room". I like to be somewhere without distraction that I can be semi loud. I really just wanted to sit there and keep playing it. I've played several McCarty's with 57/08's so I am familiar with them. This is my first go with the non-etched version...they sounded great. It was too loud in store to hear any discernible difference from my newer etched/TM'd versions though. So "my guy" said they would do a 60 day/cash down layaway on it for me and if I decided between now and then I didn't want it, just to let him know and it would be all good either way. Maybe that's a norm GC thing that they do or maybe not, but it took me by surprise a little bit. He took it back, wiped it down, cased it in the back and gave me a receipt So I left with a euphoric feeling because I felt an instant bond there while playing it. I usually go through a somewhat longer process before I say that. But it seemed there right away. I will go back and give it another go before/if I buy, I'm sure.

So on with my questions:
1)Peruvian mahogany neck...is there something special that made PRS use this particular mahogany for this model? Any noticeable difference from the normal, run-of-the-mill(pun intended) mahogany used? I know all pieces of wood are different, but...

2)Did many blueberry finishes fade? Doesn't matter either way because I love how it looks, just curious.

3)Do I need another McCarty???????
I've been looking for another guitar, but I have 2 McCarty standards(one with 5708's). I was really more looking for a p22 for my next guitar. I usually can't do more than 1 guitar per year.

So, help me justify. Talk me in or out of it. What would YOU do?

Some pics:
http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8345/8232848941_8f6b2f0cd1_b.jpg


http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8203/8233911754_4d9d3a1bb1_b.jpg

Hopeful Sinner
11-30-2012, 10:34 PM
That guitar is absolutely gorgeous and you seem to have had an instant bond with it... Go for it...

Egads
11-30-2012, 10:43 PM
Yeah, love that top. Go for it.

iahawk36
11-30-2012, 10:56 PM
That's a KILLER looking one, and if it's sounding 1/2 as good as it looks, you know what you need to do....

vchizzle
11-30-2012, 11:14 PM
What is the difference between the hand signed/#'d and those that are not(other than the obvious sig/#)?

Mikegarveyblues
11-30-2012, 11:49 PM
If you felt an instant bond then that's a good sign. If you do still have that feeling when you go back then get it or you may always have that feeling of 'The On That Got Away'.

Very nice looking guitar! (Quite like the Daphne Blue Strat in the background too... Cough... Cough! ;) )

BostonGuitar
12-01-2012, 12:26 AM
magic is NOT to be denied...
go back, play it, and if the feeling is the same, buy it, and never let it go...

vchizzle
12-01-2012, 12:39 AM
Dang, wrong section again. Sorry Hans/James

]-[ @ n $ 0 |v| a T !
12-01-2012, 12:45 AM
That's a stunner!

cjmwrx
12-01-2012, 01:42 AM
Pull the trigger or I will ;)

Already found it too. Nice price.

WEDGE
12-01-2012, 02:31 AM
Love the faded color. Birdies are sweet lookin too.

Twinfan
12-01-2012, 02:42 AM
I stumbled across a used 1957/2008 today hung high on a wall at GC. Good condition, one very small ding on the top near the neck pickup. Blueberry quilt. Now, I'm not real big on that color, but this one has faded and I love how it looks. I forgot these were nitro(many are way too sticky feeling for me)...in fact, I never would've guessed by playing it...

I'm pretty sure they're NOT nitro, just the regular pre-V12 acrylic finish.

As others have said, if it spoke to you grab it!

veinbuster
12-01-2012, 06:56 AM
Great looking guitar.
Peruvian mahogany is a very nice neck. I believe it was first used on the dirty 100. It got me over an obsession with getting a spare Brazilian necked guitar. I liked it enough that I got another one. Both have rosewood fingerboards and are great sounding and playing instruments.

JMintzer
12-01-2012, 07:04 AM
I have #2/150, that has barely faded at all. Pretty sure it's not nitro, though...

Funny, mine (and my 57/08 SC, #11/150) have shiny pup covers...

http://pic90.picturetrail.com/VOL2270/702387/20659784/336733940.jpg

http://pic90.picturetrail.com/VOL2270/702387/20659784/336733946.jpg

http://pic90.picturetrail.com/VOL2270/702387/22906030/381666937.jpg

Both are great guitars, but I'm thinking of trading the SC for a SC Ted...


Jamie

Aeetus
12-01-2012, 07:30 AM
That's a real beauty! I'd bag it for sure.

vchizzle
12-01-2012, 09:13 AM
I'm pretty sure they're NOT nitro, just the regular pre-V12 acrylic finish.

As others have said, if it spoke to you grab it!
Well that would explain why I liked how it felt then:)


Great looking guitar.
Peruvian mahogany is a very nice neck. I believe it was first used on the dirty 100. It got me over an obsession with getting a spare Brazilian necked guitar. I liked it enough that I got another one. Both have rosewood fingerboards and are great sounding and playing instruments.
I'm curious if the Peruvian is just on the signed/#'d ones or all of them?

Pull the trigger or I will ;)

Already found it too. Nice price.
Don't think they'd ship it to ya now, their stuff always shows up on the website even after it's purchased.


I have #2/150, that has barely faded at all. Pretty sure it's not nitro, though...

Funny, mine (and my 57/08 SC, #11/150) have shiny pup covers...






Both are great guitars, but I'm thinking of trading the SC for a SC Ted...


Jamie
Those are both beauties Jaime! A Ted would be a good trade up, I think.

LSchefman
12-01-2012, 09:14 AM
So on with my questions:
1)Peruvian mahogany neck...is there something special that made PRS use this particular mahogany for this model? Any noticeable difference from the normal, run-of-the-mill(pun intended) mahogany used? I know all pieces of wood are different, but...

I don't pretend to be a wood expert, but here is my experience with Peruvian Mahogany necks:

I have one on my Artist V, and my Tonare Grand also came with one. Since we're talking electric guitars, the Artist V is the most vibrant and responsive electric guitar I've ever owned. Moments after I played the first few notes I knew I'd found my #1.

I've had quite a number of PRS electrics, including RW necks, mahogany and maple necks. The A-V still blows me away every time I pick it up. Maybe I just got a great one, but I prefer it to the IRW and BRW necked guitars I've owned/played.

I posted many times about the Tonare's wonderful tone also.

I realize that based on this insignificant sample size it's impossible to truly generalize. I'm just sharing my own experience.

vchizzle
12-01-2012, 11:26 AM
Les - yes, that's all I'm looking for. Like I said, every piece of wood is obviously different so where it comes from isn't important to me. It either resonates or it doesn't. Still, I'm curious why PRS chose that specific hog and whether it was used the entire run or just the signed 150.

38Roars
12-01-2012, 11:34 AM
The Peruvian neck should close the real for you bro....
They feel THE BEST imho.....of any if the mahogany varieties...

vchizzle
12-01-2012, 03:53 PM
The Peruvian neck should close the real for you bro....
They feel THE BEST imho.....of any if the mahogany varieties...
Feel the best how??? They're almost all finished besides the satin models.

38Roars
12-01-2012, 05:48 PM
It must have something to do with the absorption of the stains and the graining of the wood itself...
Also, it's only been available on special runs ie 5310, A5, etc...
Also used on some acoustics I have played.....

butterfly
12-01-2012, 09:28 PM
I don't know about the wood but I wish my local GC would get stuff like that in

vchizzle
12-02-2012, 12:13 AM
Story of my life! We almost never get anything cool in! This was the 1st that made my jaw drop.

vchizzle
12-12-2012, 12:47 AM
So can anyone give me more info on the 1957/2008 run? Was there a LTD run of the signed/#'d 150 and that's it, or were more produced outside that 150. It's got the truss rod cover. I don't remember seeing signed back plate though. I can go get the serial # & maybe the modcat, but I'm interested in the history either way.

Thanks.

bluefade
12-12-2012, 04:42 AM
I had a 57/08 in Mcarty sunburst. great guitar! I traded it in for a Sig.Limited.Ever since i got the sig. limited,it's all i play! Mr Smith will really have to go some to top the Sig.Limited,for me to buy another guitar!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Twinfan
12-12-2012, 05:25 AM
vchizzle - all of the the 57/08 run should have the signed back plate.

bluefade - four words. "Private Stock" and "Collection Series"......

vchizzle
12-12-2012, 09:57 AM
vchizzle - all of the the 57/08 run should have the signed back plate.

bluefade - four words. "Private Stock" and "Collection Series"......
Really?....hmmm maybe the signed plate was removed & put in case(unlikely). I should see if the case candy is there too.

bluefade
12-13-2012, 04:30 AM
vchizzle - all of the the 57/08 run should have the signed back plate.

bluefade - four words. "Private Stock" and "Collection Series"......

I have a custom 24 private stock with 57/08's in it. It's #2675. There are pictures of it on WILDWEST GUITAR'S WEB SITE. It's a great guitar,but toneally much less versatile than the sig.lim.

Twinfan
12-13-2012, 05:08 AM
You should try a PS 408 Sig - my Sig Ltd is good, but my PSs are tonally much richer.

vchizzle
12-13-2012, 09:36 AM
I'm not really interested in a Sig, just info on the guitar in question.

Twinfan
12-13-2012, 10:01 AM
Sorry - I was talking to bluefade!

vchizzle
12-13-2012, 04:56 PM
It's all good.

bluefade
12-14-2012, 04:29 AM
You should try a PS 408 Sig - my Sig Ltd is good, but my PSs are tonally much richer.

I see a ps sig. in my future, i do believe!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! THANKS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

watelessness
12-14-2012, 11:13 AM
It sounds like it has the two most important characteristics, playability and tone, as well as the third: looks. Does it replace any tool that you have now or does it augment your collection? If it augments, then you'll be posting a NGD in about 60 days. If it replaces something, by how much? Perhaps you can bring in your other McCartys and a/b/c them. If you're attached to your others, just put different pickups in your old one and now you've augmented your tool set. :D

vchizzle
12-14-2012, 02:24 PM
It sounds like it has the two most important characteristics, playability and tone, as well as the third: looks. Does it replace any tool that you have now or does it augment your collection? If it augments, then you'll be posting a NGD in about 60 days. If it replaces something, by how much? Perhaps you can bring in your other McCartys and a/b/c them. If you're attached to your others, just put different pickups in your old one and now you've augmented your tool set. :D
Does it replace or augment the collection is the million dollar question. Well, as far a differences go, it is a maple top McCarty - which I don't have. Both my Macs are standards. I'm pretty set on not letting go of them, so it will need to augment. I have 5708's in one of those, so it will be a pretty good comparison to see if it adds to what I have. I like to have a few guitars in different tunings, so it would help with that.

As far as the looks go, it pretty much nails everything I don't have that I want. An awesome quilt top, I've always wanted one. A faded blue finish, always wanted one. I went in today and looked at it and it is #95 of the signed LTDs....that doesn't hurt either. I graduated in '95, so kinda cool. Only thing missing is the hang tag, which is a bummer but not a big thing.

I think about the guitar a lot so that's a good sign. Either way, I'm buying the guitar and will test drive it thru my gear and my environment. If it doesn't stack up or augment what I have, I'll return it and get something else. I don't usually operate like that, but the GC guys(a few solid employees at this one), are fine with that. They know I'm an ultra picky PRS freak:D
So we'll see how it shakes out and if she's a keeper.

francric
12-14-2012, 07:41 PM
The first PRS I purchased. 1/150............................love this guitar!

http://i111.photobucket.com/albums/n131/francric/DSC_0010.jpg

vchizzle
12-14-2012, 11:21 PM
Wow! Beautiful! #1??? Really? That's awesome.