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slang05
01-01-2013, 05:01 PM
Looking to buy a new (ok used) PRS next week. Been thinking about a 305 or a Swamp Ash Special. Would love to hear from some owners of these guitars to get there thoughts. I am unable to play whatever I buy because the stores in town don't have them available, plus I am looking to buy used anyway. I do have a 513 and from what I have read the 305 has the same neck but unfinished, like the the SAS. I really am looking for something a bit different. Have thought about Cu22's and a Singlecut because I have had them before and loved them, but thought I would step outside what I've had in the past with something different. I do play country and rock, think Aldean, but I'm not too concerned about tone. I know that sounds crazy but I don't think I've ever heard a PRS that I didn't like the way it sounded. With that said, I would still love to hear how you think your 305 or SAS sound.
I have thought about the Swamp Ash with Narrowfields, but I think that would be out of my range. I have about $1400, maybe $1500 to spend.

Seneca SS
01-01-2013, 05:37 PM
i love my 25th SAS , awesome sound with a ton of variation!!! The Narrowfields are great pups

http://i81.photobucket.com/albums/j240/wyomingta/Guitars/722_SmokeBurst-3.jpg

slang05
01-01-2013, 07:05 PM
Thats super nice. Found one like that at a GC in Mississippi that I think I'll make a run at. Problem is it maybe like $100 out of my range after shipping and taxes.

LSchefman
01-01-2013, 07:13 PM
The necks aren't unfinished, they only feel that way. There is a finish that soaks into the wood.

slang05
01-01-2013, 09:13 PM
The necks aren't unfinished, they only feel that way. There is a finish that soaks into the wood.

I kinda assumed that..wasn't sure though. Like on the DC3 and the NF3?

daa2202
01-01-2013, 09:32 PM
I have both a 513 and a 305. While I like them both very much, the reality is that there's nothing that the 305 can do that the 513 cannot (when in single-coil mode.) Of course, the 513 has the humbucking modes, as well, so it's quite a bit more versatile.

I don't have a SAS, but I do also have a Modern Eagle III, which also has the three narrowfields like the current SAS. They are remarkable pickups! They can go anywhere from Fender-style glassiness when clean to P-90 raunch (when on about 6-7 on the volume control) to full-on humbucker crunch. It's hard for me to think of a sound that you couldn't cover with the combination of a 513 and SAS/NF.

slang05
01-01-2013, 10:26 PM
I have both a 513 and a 305. While I like them both very much, the reality is that there's nothing that the 305 can do that the 513 cannot (when in single-coil mode.) Of course, the 513 has the humbucking modes, as well, so it's quite a bit more versatile.

I don't have a SAS, but I do also have a Modern Eagle III, which also has the three narrowfields like the current SAS. They are remarkable pickups! They can go anywhere from Fender-style glassiness when clean to P-90 raunch (when on about 6-7 on the volume control) to full-on humbucker crunch. It's hard for me to think of a sound that you couldn't cover with the combination of a 513 and SAS/NF.

Are you saying it would be redundant to have a 513 and a 305? Does the 305 sound exactly like the 513 in single coil mode? I would love a SAS but I think they are a tad out of what I can spend. Most are $1500-1800 used and I think I'm capped at $1500

daa2202
01-01-2013, 10:34 PM
Yes, personally I think that a 513 makes a 305 redundant...so much so that I am likely to sell my 305 now that I have acquired a 513. OK, they may not sound exactly the same (my 2009 305 has a alder body, maple neck, and a rosewood board, while my 2012 513 has a mahogany body and neck and a rosewood board, so there's a slight difference there), but in any real-world setting they're pretty darn identical (with the 513 in single-coil mode.)

Daniel
01-02-2013, 12:10 AM
Jason Aldean's guitarist seems to play a Studio, at least on recent TV appearances. The 305 is a great guitar.


http://a1.ec-images.myspacecdn.com/images02/149/20300d8d4cb442428542e4139f664145/l.jpg

slang05
01-02-2013, 01:02 AM
Yes, personally I think that a 513 makes a 305 redundant...so much so that I am likely to sell my 305 now that I have acquired a 513. OK, they may not sound exactly the same (my 2009 305 has a alder body, maple neck, and a rosewood board, while my 2012 513 has a mahogany body and neck and a rosewood board, so there's a slight difference there), but in any real-world setting they're pretty darn identical (with the 513 in single-coil mode.)

Dang! I knew you were going to say that!!

Dancing Frog
01-02-2013, 01:19 PM
The current 305 and the 513 are closer than my 305 prototype is.

Outside of my predilection for 513's, I have a bunch of SAS, old and new including a 513 Swamp Ash, a SASNF, and a Swamp Ash Studio. I think I'd go with a Swamp Ash Studio if I had to have just one.

Swamp Ash tends to give the guitar scooped mids with sharp biting highs and tight lows. I tend to like them better with warm clear pick ups like 5708's and Narrowfields, but it does pretty good with warm muddy pick ups like 513's and McCarty's. However, I found the Narrowfields to be a little thin for a treble pick up which is why I favor the Swamp Ash Studio over the SASNF.

I think you get a used Swamp Ash Special fairly cheeply, and you'd be about 90% of the way there. You could send that to the PTC and get 5708's put in with

Another thing to look at would be a used Johnny Hiland. A bolted on maple neck on a maple capped mahogany body gives you a slightly less bright tone with more warmth.
http://i116.photobucket.com/albums/o13/theboarsrock/IMG_0628.jpghttp://i116.photobucket.com/albums/o13/theboarsrock/DSC_00130116.jpghttp://i116.photobucket.com/albums/o13/theboarsrock/DSC_0008-1.jpghttp://i116.photobucket.com/albums/o13/theboarsrock/DSC_0281.jpg

slang05
01-02-2013, 10:59 PM
Ok, went ahead and pulled a trigger on the 25th Swamp Ash Special with Narrowfields. Can't wait to get it and hear it. I see a NGD in my future! Should have it sometime next week!

bretwomack
01-03-2013, 12:50 AM
i love my 25th SAS , awesome sound with a ton of variation!!! The Narrowfields are great pups

http://i81.photobucket.com/albums/j240/wyomingta/Guitars/722_SmokeBurst-3.jpg


What are these amazing birds??? Are these typical on SASs?

Seneca SS
01-03-2013, 07:55 AM
they are shadow birds--some like some dont--i like them !!

Dancing Frog
01-03-2013, 10:14 AM
Shadow birds were only on the 25th Anniversary's. The also had this lovely headstock eagle.
http://i116.photobucket.com/albums/o13/theboarsrock/DSC_00120115.jpg

slang05
01-04-2013, 12:32 AM
i love my 25th SAS , awesome sound with a ton of variation!!! The Narrowfields are great pups

http://i81.photobucket.com/albums/j240/wyomingta/Guitars/722_SmokeBurst-3.jpg

Hey! Are the frets the regular PRS med jumbo style on this guitar or are they the jumbo like on a DC3? Or something else? Any idea?

zebraprs
01-04-2013, 08:43 PM
I love my SAStudio.. I just installed an 85 Standard Treble in the bridge. i think it matches up with the Narrowfields a little better..
http://www.ryptyde.com/sas_front.jpg