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WishICouldPlay
01-13-2013, 05:26 AM
... a$$holes.
went and saw a good blues/rock band tonite.
this band was really, really good. fabulous guitar player.
for some reason, there were three local guitar players showing up.
you can always tell ... they are the guys that scope out the gear and sneer.
... and whine and critize all nite long.

why can't they just enjoy the band?

Twinfan
01-13-2013, 05:41 AM
Because that's what a lot do. How many guitarists does it take to change a light bulb?

100. 1 to change the bulb, 99 to stand around saying "I can do that".

jfine
01-13-2013, 05:44 AM
I've been wondering about that for years! Maybe it's because there are so many of us (compared to, say, bass players), and so few gigs, that if we're onstage, we feel as if all the other guitar players are after our gig, and if we're in the audience, we want the other guy's gig. I'm certainly not that way--if I'm digging someone's playing, I believe in letting them know about it. Drummers are always instant buddies with one another--why can't we guitar players be more like that?

WishICouldPlay
01-13-2013, 05:53 AM
I've been wondering about that for years! Maybe it's because there are so many of us (compared to, say, bass players), and so few gigs, that if we're onstage, we feel as if all the other guitar players are after our gig, and if we're in the audience, we want the other guy's gig. I'm certainly not that way--if I'm digging someone's playing, I believe in letting them know about it. Drummers are always instant buddies with one another--why can't we guitar players be more like that?

it's kinda pathetic.
this guy was the best i've seen around here in years ... alsolutely smoked all the haters and i enjoyed myself.
hey ... good for him, and the bass player was smoooooth.
i bought the band a couple of shots, that's all i can do.
the pie is not finite, it's infinite ... lots of room for everyone.

slev
01-13-2013, 07:30 AM
Because that's what a lot do. How many guitarists does it take to change a light bulb?

100. 1 to change the bulb, 99 to stand around saying "I can do that".

and, "I hear a hum coming from that bulb, the one I put in is dead quite." or "Those CF bulb are too harsh, you have use a NOS bulb in that fixture."

I think sometimes guys forget it's about the music.

]-[ @ n $ 0 |v| a T !
01-13-2013, 10:56 AM
... a$$holes.
went and saw a good blues/rock band tonite.
this band was really, really good. fabulous guitar player.
for some reason, there were three local guitar players showing up.
you can always tell ... they are the guys that scope out the gear and sneer.
... and whine and critize all nite long.

why can't they just enjoy the band?
Maybe the guy on stage was using a capo.

sergiodeblanc
01-13-2013, 11:12 AM
-[ @ n $ 0 |v| a T ! ;40872']Maybe the guy on stage was using a capo.

.....And he's back!

Goldtop
01-13-2013, 11:44 AM
... a$$holes.

why can't they just enjoy the band?

Not all of us are that way. I'm not. Small minds, hearts, attitudes... Small people can be found in all social groups, but hopefully they're the exception rather than the rule.

Lloyd/Goldtop

LSchefman
01-13-2013, 12:00 PM
Guitar players make me chuckle. I've heard so many criticisms of each other over the years - I usually gig on keys so everyone seems to give me their comments - but here's what the audiences invariably tell me after a show when I'm playing with a really good player who also has good tone, and who I think has done a great job on the gig:

"Too much guitar soloing, can't you get that guy to play shorter solos? No one wants to hear that."

"You guys are good but I hated the guitar player stepping all over the singer."

"The band was great but the guitar was too loud."

You can't win. Everyone's a critic.

Rango
01-13-2013, 12:43 PM
I've seen this...
Hell I'm even guilty at times....

Lots of social politics in a small town band scene ;)

markie
01-13-2013, 12:59 PM
-[ @ n $ 0 |v| a T ! ;40872']Maybe the guy on stage was using a capo.





:laugh:

justmund
01-13-2013, 04:12 PM
Because that's what a lot do. How many guitarists does it take to change a light bulb?

100. 1 to change the bulb, 99 to stand around saying "I can do that".
I heard a different version:

"I can do that, but faster"

Rango
01-13-2013, 04:15 PM
-[ @ n $ 0 |v| a T ! ;40872']Maybe the guy on stage was using a capo.

I didn't get this at first... Then I read the "Capo" thread! ;)
:rofl:

swede71
01-13-2013, 04:17 PM
Just remember,you have to be a selftaught genius.Heres some lines you can use..."im not technical at all"..."I dont know the names of the chords i play"..."I dont believe in guitarathletics,anyone can do that"..."I cant tell the difference between mixolydian and assholian scales"..."I dont use scales"..."i have never had a lesson in my life"..."PRS guitars are too easy to play"....always cite MC5 and the Stooges as your inspiration....I just loved when swedish newspaper Aftonbladet reviewed Santanas concert a few years ago....too many guitarsolos :D

Mikegarveyblues
01-13-2013, 04:59 PM
I sometimes form an opinion of a guitarist when I hear them but keep any opinions to myself unless asked. Tends to be if something really stands out in a positive or negative way. As a player i'm going to notice little things that a casual listener / observer may not.

I've had good constructive feedback off a few guitarists and.... Yep, there's been a few ar*eholes who have made a little dig.

i can say that 99 out of a hundred times someone is critical (As in abusive) on Y'tube they don't have a vid of them playing. It does perhaps offer an insight to what some do think but won't say face to face in public. I can't be doing with the 'competition' aspect of playing. If the crowd in general appreciate what you do then that's all that matters.

clcwarlock
01-13-2013, 05:09 PM
Can't we all just get along.

Mikegarveyblues
01-13-2013, 06:01 PM
Not all of us are that way. I'm not. Small minds, hearts, attitudes... Small people can be found in all social groups, but hopefully they're the exception rather than the rule.

Lloyd/Goldtop

This was supposed to be your 'evil' post!

Baimun
01-13-2013, 10:24 PM
I spent years obsessing about so many minute details with gear... through all the years with rock bands and even when running sound for other bands... until a few years ago I started running sound for an acoustic pop trio. When they started, they had some of the cheapest off the shelf gear, but they rocked the place with it (It helped that all three can sing and harmonize). They appreciated the nuances I was able to pull out of their performances with the mics and speakers I was using, but I was simultaneously blown away by how much MUSIC was coming from their hands. They literally could have made music with cardboard boxes and rubber bands.

Since then, I've realized that the music doesn't depend on certain gear or that "it" sound. Those things are bonuses or icing on the cake. The gear can inspire a better performance from the musician, but the root of it all starts with the person playing the music.

alantig
01-13-2013, 10:51 PM
I confess, I've been guilty of this, but I'm trying, Ringo, I'm trying real hard...

http://totallytop10.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/10/pulp_fiction_jules.jpg

rugerpc
01-14-2013, 10:39 AM
I just loved when swedish newspaper Aftonbladet reviewed Santanas concert a few years ago....too many guitarsolos :D

The definition of cluelessness on the part of the reviewer! :laugh:

Goldtop
01-14-2013, 04:26 PM
This was supposed to be your 'evil' post!

Sorry... I missed it... I'm guess I'm just not awake enough. I'll do better with my next opportunity.

Lloyd/Goldtop/QoC

captdg
01-15-2013, 05:46 AM
I confess, I've been guilty of this, but I'm trying, Ringo, I'm trying real hard...

http://totallytop10.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/10/pulp_fiction_jules.jpg
oops I soiled myself when I saw this!

Albrecht Smuten
01-15-2013, 05:49 AM
oops I soiled myself when I saw this!

How about now?

http://photoshopcontest.com/images/fullsize/562013748c73043846cdad77be3407e4e8ee387f56033.jpg

captdg
01-15-2013, 09:45 AM
How about now?



http://photoshopcontest.com/images/fullsize/562013748c73043846cdad77be3407e4e8ee387f56033.jpgA lbrect...that just makes me wanna play "Foggy Mountain Breakdown"....LOL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

captdg
01-15-2013, 09:53 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6RvI6ZI2JWc

gush
01-15-2013, 06:09 PM
I am one of those guys that picks a band apart that im watching. I watch for positive things and ask does my band do that. I also watch for negative things and ask the same question. I always give positive support to the band im watching, just being kind. I guess its kind of a means of keeping myself in check.

solacematt
01-16-2013, 11:39 PM
A few years back one of the bands I was in was very Tool sounding. We were on a bill with a few heavier bands. The first band on I had good conversation with as we discussed current bands we were listening to. Those guys went up and were just incredible. I seriously felt ill and embarrassed by the band I was playing with because I felt like a hack having to dumb down my style to play in this band. Literally felt sick to my stomach and missed the next band too. Had no problem telling those guys I thought they blew us out of the water, that's for sure, haha/

sergiodeblanc
01-16-2013, 11:55 PM
Ha! You guys think guitar players can give attitude? Try being a middle aged white MC! Dudes will tell you they hate you on the mic! At least with a guitar you have something to swing at 'em with.

JDBRADSHAW
01-17-2013, 09:55 AM
Its too easy to sit back and critique than actually walking up to the guitarist and striking up an intelligent conversation....

Steve59
01-18-2013, 08:43 AM
Maybe it's because I'm older but I'm always complimentary of other musicians. As someone who works hard to improve I understand the time and effort that goes into learning to play any instrument well. I was a music minor in college and have dabbled with many different instruments over the years. I can be very critical of someone who thinks they are the worlds greatest and clearly isn't. That's normally more about their attitude than ability. I always check out what equipment is on stage and what pedals are being used. But that's because I want to understand what works well for others and learn from that. I've always felt that people who are most secure with themselves are people who are complimentary of others. People who are insecure or unhappy with themselves (or maybe just arrogant) are the ones who criticize everyone else.

ACE
01-18-2013, 11:42 AM
The same guys that snicker and sneer at the performers are the same "know it alls" that come on these forums and insist they know everything about guitar and gear. They are the same guys that say accomplished guitar players (EVH, SRV, Clapton, etc.) suck and are overrated.

captdg
01-18-2013, 12:52 PM
Ive noticed this ALOT on YouTube..