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01-14-2013, 05:07 PM
I've shared details about the “Mother of Brazilians” (AKA “Dirty 30 Gold Top" or a “Lanahan Special”) in the past but never posted the long version before. I know there are a lot of us who enjoy tracking the history of special guitars. If you have anything to add, please do!

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This is a '99 McCarty. It was originally built at the behest of Jeff Lanahan, the manager of Artist Relations for PRS Guitars (at the time). The guitar was slated to be given to a professional guitar player (for promotional interests) as part of the Artist Relation program. Somewhere along the way, it took an alternate course.Flash forward to December of 2003, the guitar was listed on eBay (Item #2368271511) by Micheal D. Green (eBay ID: xochytl). Two of the fellas from BaM (Bruce O'Donnell and Glenn Braddy) were suspicious of the guitar - so they started investigating.

The eBay seller, Michael Green, originally claimed that he took the guitar in on trade from a guy named “Duncan” (supposedly from Dallas). Green claimed that he traded Duncan a 1988 PRS mixed EG3/Custom employee model for it. Green ended up having a run-in (around 2004 or 2005) with PRS, the PRS Artist Relations Department, and the Feds. It turns out that many of the guitars Green was selling on eBay (to include this Brazilian Rosewood Gold Top McCarty) were stolen from the PRS factory and were coming from the hands of Lanahan. News articles published after the eventual lawsuit between PRS and Lanahan report that Green claimed to be “unaware” the guitars were stolen but that he was “always a little suspicious.”

So how did Bruce and Glenn know something was amiss?

The first source for concern was the seller’s claim that the neck was Brazilian Rosewood – despite a MODCAT code that suggests the neck is actually East Indian Rosewood. While the color and texture of the neck are clearly Brazilian, it is still a red flag. Discussions with PRS factory suggested that MODCAT system was very young when this guitar was built – a possible reason for the discrepancy. More likely, however, was Lanahan's need make sure the guitar didn’t get any attention on the internal paper-trail.The second source for concern was the fact that this guitar pre-dates the limited run of solid Brazilian Rosewood neck McCarty guitars (250 signed and numbered) which are known, formally, as the “Brazilian Rosewood McCarty” model - not to be confused with the Brazilian Limited Edition McCarty which only had a Brazilian Rosewood fretboard.

Provenance of the Guitar’s Authenticity

The bridge pickup cavity and original hang tag displays the word “Brazilian”. But, as previously mentioned, this instrument pre-dates the limited run of 250 Brazilian neck McCarty guitars. Upon closer inspection, there is little doubt that the coal-black lumber used for the neck of this guitar is Brazilian Rosewood but there has been no lab analysis of samples taken from the guitar. Assuming we're right, the build date makes this one of the oldest production PRS guitars with a Brazilian Rosewood neck. The only production Brazilian-neck McCarty that I've found that pre-dates this one was made for Howard Leese. Howard's guitar is serial number 9_42,3XX. The MOB is 9_ 43,1XX.

Braddy and O'Donnell attempted to get some verification via PRS and coordinated with Jim Cullen (former PRS Customer Relations Manager) who said the following to O’Donnell in an email:

Bruce,

The serial number would be helpful, also the MODCAT system was fairly new at the time and it does show a Brazilian for the fretboard so... It is difficult to say. Please get us the serial number and we will do what we can to assist you.

Best Regards,
Jim Cullen
Customer Relations

After the serial number was given to Cullen, directly by Green, Cullen replied with the following:

Michael,

I am sorry; our database prior to early 1999 is currently out of service indefinitely; if you would like more information, please email detailed photos of the guitar. I will do my best after receiving photos as well.
Best Regards,

Jim Cullen
Customer Relations

There is no more info from Cullen after this last email. As I write this, I cannot help but wonder if it was Lanahan (in an attempt to cover his tracks) who corrupted or deleted the original PRS database. Not knowing anything about the death of the PRS database, this is purely my own opinion.

Here is a news article which brings the story to a close:
“Men sentenced in guitar-theft scheme” Sep 2, 2006 5:00 AM by Megan McIlroy
mmcilroy@baltimoreexaminer.com
(http://www.examiner.com/a-259180%7EMen_sentenced_in_guitar_theft_scheme.html )http://www.examiner.com/a-259180~Men...ft_scheme.html

Anne Arundel County (Map, News) - Two men who pleaded guilty to stealing guitars made by famed guitar maker Paul Reed Smith were ordered to pay restitution in Anne Arundel County Circuit Court Friday. Jeffrey Lanahan, 44, of Annapolis, and Michael Kelly, 42, of Arnold, pleaded guilty in June to a theft scheme in which they took guitars made for bands like Third Eye Blind, Incubus and Train and arranged for them to be sold on eBay. “We wrote off $250,000 worth of guitars,” Smith said in court Friday, “Everybody felt kind of betrayed.” Lanahan worked for Smith in Stevensville for nine years. Before he resigned in September 2004, he worked as the director of artists’ relations, promoting guitars to recording artists. He was one of the few people at Paul Reed Smith Guitars who had access to the one-of-a-kind guitars, charging documents said. Smith eventually discovered one of his stolen guitars — one of only 11 — on eBay, charging documents said. The guitar was connected back to a friend of Lanahan’s and Kelly’s.

The friend, Michael Green, told police that he had sold about 20 Paul Reed Smith guitars on eBay. He also said that Kelly had given him about 10 more guitars to sell. The guitars, valued at thousands of dollars, were often marketed as guitars used by recording artists like Nickelback, Assistant State’s Attorney Michael Dunty said. Investigators were able to trace back approximately $40,000 worth of guitars back to Lanahan and Kelly, and they recovered guitars worth about $19,000, Dunty said. Lanahan was sentenced to three months of house arrest, five years probation, community service and was ordered to pay Smith about $21,000. Kelly was sentenced to three years probation, community service and was ordered to pay Smith $5,000.

cjmwrx
01-14-2013, 05:25 PM
I wonder how much this affected PRS's ability to market? With Paul expecting these guitars were in the hands of the artists being displayed live. Instead, they sat in someone's private collection, not getting the attention they were intended.

Sad, but very happy they were caught and sentenced. Sentence was a little light IMHO. Jail time should've been handed down.

If only.

That neck is stunning!

WEDGE
01-14-2013, 05:32 PM
Welcome back!

That neck is almost black.....bet it feels really good.......

themike
01-14-2013, 06:00 PM
Wow what a great story man! Glad to see that Paul and company caught him. I wonder if I can convince Winn to "float" me a guitar hahah

Rango
01-14-2013, 06:47 PM
So where is the guitar now??? Did Paul keep it? Did it end up with an Artist as intended?

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01-14-2013, 06:50 PM
So where is the guitar now??? Did Paul keep it? Did it end up with an Artist as intended?
I own the guitar.

slang05
01-14-2013, 06:55 PM
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No kidding? Wow! I now own a jpeg of the guitar! lol It's so amazing...

captdg
01-14-2013, 07:07 PM
Hans, do you play it? Or is it like Nigel Tufnels guitar that "Can never be played"... Or pointed at?

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01-14-2013, 07:56 PM
Hans, do you play it? Or is it like Nigel Tufnels guitar that "Can never be played"... Or pointed at?
It doesn't get played much these days. I have an SE One that the PTC modified a few months back that still has all of my attention.

Dirty Bob
01-14-2013, 08:11 PM
I've heard parts of this before...never all of it though.....crazy story and a beautiful guitar!

iahawk36
01-14-2013, 08:21 PM
One of my ALL-TIME favorite PRS guitars...EVER. Couldn't be owned by a better guy either. I hope it stays in that family forever.

Thanks for the history on it, muh man!

justmund
01-14-2013, 08:30 PM
Wow thanks for sharing Hans, I love this kinda stuff!

markie
01-14-2013, 09:01 PM
:o Last played by Markie? :proud: :proud: :proud: :proud:

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01-14-2013, 09:04 PM
:o Last played by Markie? :proud: :proud: :proud: :proud:
Yup.

LSchefman
01-14-2013, 09:35 PM
Hans, the story can't end with the guitar just being "owned" and not played much. It's got history, sure, but it's also got potential, and it's not an antique that belongs in a museum.

Get that thing out and add to its story!

sergiodeblanc
01-14-2013, 11:32 PM
I'd probably scratch it up with my belt buckle.:(

John Beef
01-15-2013, 10:51 AM
I remember reading the guy from Incubus stopped playing PRS guitars all together over this incident, and switched to Jazzmasters. I found that to be interesting because I switched from Jazzmasters to PRS guitars.

Rango
01-15-2013, 10:57 AM
I'd probably scratch it up with my belt buckle.:(

I'd bet there is a Giant "Snuggy" (blanket with arm holes) that you have to put on before you touch it! LOL!!!

rugerpc
01-15-2013, 11:18 AM
An interesting history, but not the complete story is it?

How did the guitar go from Green to who, to who, to who, to you, Hans?

Twinfan
01-15-2013, 11:24 AM
I'd love to know this too!

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01-15-2013, 11:37 AM
An interesting history, but not the complete story is it?

How did the guitar go from Green to who, to who, to who, to you, Hans?
Glenn Brady won the eBay auction mentioned above. He contacted PRS when he got the serial number and they explained many of these details to him. They also (graciously) told him that he could keep the guitar. He sold it to another BaM member (Cyclops). Cyclops sold it to me after I begged him relentlessly.

Many of the details in the original post were compiled by the two previous owners.

BTW, Glenn is the one who made the custom truss rod cover. I believe that David (Cyclops) put the gold knobs on it. I put the non-engraved 57/08's and adjustable bridge on it.

rugerpc
01-15-2013, 12:18 PM
Thanks, Hans. It was indeed gracious of PRS to not demand the return of the guitar. Another classy company move....

Brad737
01-15-2013, 12:46 PM
I wonder if Jim Cullen was just saying that about the database to get proof that this was one of the stolen guitars? Has PRS tried to get the guitars back?

LSchefman
01-15-2013, 01:17 PM
So when you're talking informally about the Mother of Brazilians, do you call it The Mother of Brazilians, The Mother, Mom, Mommy, Moeder, Mutter, Mama, MOB, Patrino, šiti, emo, والدة, мать, or what...?

I named my guitars a few months back, but actually I never use their names. So I'm going to have to rename them. Or un-name them. In fact, out of the two of them, I forgot one of their names already. It's a good thing I don't have a collection.

At least I remember the names of my kids. So there's that.

Obviously, I need some professional guidance, here. ;)

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01-15-2013, 01:22 PM
So when you're talking informally about the Mother of Brazilians, do you call it the Mother of Brazilians, Mother, Mom, Mommy, Moeder, Mutter, Mama, MOB, Patrino, šiti, emo,
والدة, мать, or what...?
Usually I just point and grunt.

LSchefman
01-15-2013, 01:25 PM
-[ @ n $ 0 |v| a T ! ©;41402']Usually I just point and grunt.

That's pretty much what I do. LOL!

Shawn@PRS
01-15-2013, 01:58 PM
I wonder if Jim Cullen was just saying that about the database to get proof that this was one of the stolen guitars? Has PRS tried to get the guitars back?

No, it's true. Our early database consists mostly of notes scribbled on bar napkins, which were later imported into an excel spreadsheet. There are many, many gaps in the information.

sergiodeblanc
01-15-2013, 02:04 PM
I'd bet there is a Giant "Snuggy" (blanket with arm holes) that you have to put on before you touch it! LOL!!!

You could probably sell a million of these!

rugerpc
01-15-2013, 02:36 PM
-[ @ n $ 0 |v| a T ! ©;41402']Usually I just point and grunt.


That's pretty much what I do. LOL!

for the guitars or the kids? :)

rugerpc
01-15-2013, 02:38 PM
I'd bet there is a Giant "Snuggy" (blanket with arm holes) that you have to put on before you touch it! LOL!!!


You could probably sell a million of these!

You could market them as "guitar ponchos".

veinbuster
01-15-2013, 03:28 PM
Very nice guitar and a well told story.
This might mean I owe you a story about a Brazilian.

Aeetus
01-15-2013, 06:52 PM
Awesome of Paul to honour someone else's sale and what a guitar, that's a great end to a not so great story.

justmund
01-15-2013, 07:20 PM
You could market them as "guitar ponchos".
Perhaps just one of these...

http://adultpajamaswithfeet.com/images/bunny-footie-pajamas.jpg

cyclops
01-15-2013, 10:38 PM
I'm the one that sold this to Hans... I bought it from a dealer here in South Florida. The dealer had bought it from Glenn at the Orlando Guitar show. I fell in love with it, put in on hold for almost a year (gotta love the mom-and-pops!). I brought it home, posted my NGD on BAM, and Glenn sent me the back story. What killed me was almost the same day that I brought it home, the trial started. I actually emailed PRS and asked them if they needed it for evidence. I think they almost took me up on the offer. Fortunately, the next day, the court found the guy guilty, and he agreed to pay for all the guitars. Got a really nice note from PRS basically stating that the guitar was at that point 'legit'.

I played that guitar out several times, and practiced with it daily. There is not a better neck from PRS that I've seen, including my own Cu24 Brazzy PS. If I had been able to put the 57/08's in it, Hans would probably not have that guitar :) Fortunately, karma came around and delivered my current #1 to me, my MEQ.

cyclops
01-15-2013, 10:43 PM
I wonder if Jim Cullen was just saying that about the database to get proof that this was one of the stolen guitars? Has PRS tried to get the guitars back?

I had the guitar when the case went to trial. I offered to PRS, but they didn't need it for evidence. I think they almost sent Shawn on a plane to get it, though :)

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01-15-2013, 11:02 PM
Hey David! Thanks very much for clarifying those details.

11top
01-16-2013, 06:53 AM
Great story guys! Thanks for sharing. Glad it's in your hans Hans!

TJIann
01-16-2013, 07:37 AM
Very interesting story. Thanks.

SuperFly53
01-16-2013, 08:01 AM
You know how I feel about that one, Hans!!

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01-16-2013, 08:05 AM
Norm!!! Where've you been? Nice to see ya! :)

vchizzle
01-16-2013, 09:12 PM
Wow. Great read! Great to see you back. I almost started a "I miss Hans" thread:D

jcha008
01-17-2013, 02:20 PM
Love the dark neck!

11top
06-19-2013, 08:34 AM
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Provenance of the Guitar’s Authenticity[/B][/FONT][/SIZE]

The bridge pickup cavity and original hang tag displays the word “Brazilian”. But, as previously mentioned, this instrument pre-dates the limited run of 250 Brazilian neck McCarty guitars. Upon closer inspection, there is little doubt that the coal-black lumber used for the neck of this guitar is Brazilian Rosewood but there has been no lab analysis of samples taken from the guitar. Assuming we're right, the build date makes this one of the oldest production PRS guitars with a Brazilian Rosewood neck. The only production Brazilian-neck McCarty that I've found that pre-dates this one was made for Howard Leese. Howard's guitar is serial number 9_42,3XX. The MOB is 9_ 43,1XX.


When Hans was visiting in Indiana a few weeks back, he noticed a guitar hanging on my wall. He didn't know that I now have the guitar referenced above that was "made for Howard Leese." And I wasn't aware that it is apparently the first BRW neck McCarty made, and according to Hans is the proto for the Modern Eagle. Thanks for the info Mr. O'Matic! Also, Howard informed me that he played this guitar in the "Paul Rodgers Band Live in Glagow" CD. The photos below are from that performance.

http://i31.photobucket.com/albums/c395/11top/PRS%20HOWARD%20LEESE%20GUITARS/HowardLeese3.png (http://s31.photobucket.com/user/11top/media/PRS%20HOWARD%20LEESE%20GUITARS/HowardLeese3.png.html)

http://i31.photobucket.com/albums/c395/11top/PRS%20HOWARD%20LEESE%20GUITARS/HowardLeese2.png (http://s31.photobucket.com/user/11top/media/PRS%20HOWARD%20LEESE%20GUITARS/HowardLeese2.png.html)

jfb
06-19-2013, 08:40 AM
Love a guitar with some history like that.

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06-19-2013, 09:56 AM
When Hans was visiting in Indiana a few weeks back, he noticed a guitar hanging on my wall. He didn't know that I now have the guitar referenced above that was "made for Howard Leese." And I wasn't aware that it is apparently the first BRW neck McCarty made, and according to Hans is the proto for the Modern Eagle. Thanks for the info Mr. O'Matic! Also, Howard informed me that he played this guitar in the "Paul Rodgers Band Live in Glagow" CD. The photos below are from that performance.


To be clear... it is the oldest (by serial number) production PRS I have ever see with a Brazilian Rosewood neck. Whether or not it's the 1st BRW-neck McCarty (or 1st production PRS of any model with a BRW neck) I cannot say.

It certainly pre-dates the limited run of 250 guitars. It is also older, by serial number, than my goldtop.

11top
06-19-2013, 10:13 AM
-[ @ n $ 0 |v| a T ! ©;81525']To be clear... it is the oldest (by serial number) production PRS I have ever see with a Brazilian Rosewood neck. Whether or not it's the 1st BRW-neck McCarty (or 1st production PRS of any model with a BRW neck) I cannot say.

It certainly pre-dates the limited run of 250 guitars. It is also older, by serial number, than my goldtop.

Thanks for the clarification. :top:


I had emailed Hans to see if my post was accurate.

markie
06-19-2013, 10:13 AM
Thanks,
Gary

themike
06-19-2013, 10:16 AM
So Hans is the mother of all Brazilians, and Markie is the father? Am I getting that right?

Martijn
06-20-2013, 03:20 AM
-[ @ n $ 0 |v| a T ! ©;81525']To be clear... it is the oldest (by serial number) production PRS I have ever see with a Brazilian Rosewood neck. Whether or not it's the 1st BRW-neck McCarty (or 1st production PRS of any model with a BRW neck) I cannot say.

It certainly pre-dates the limited run of 250 guitars. It is also older, by serial number, than my goldtop.
The first PRS RW neck guitar was made in 1994, I do not know if it was a BRW or IRW neck though. But given the fact that Paul already loved it in 1994, who knows what he did in the 5 years between 1994 and 1999.

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06-20-2013, 06:54 PM
The first PRS RW neck guitar was made in 1994, I do not know if it was a BRW or IRW neck though. But given the fact that Paul already loved it in 1994,

What can you tell us about it? Did you see it?


who knows what he did in the 5 years between 1994 and 1999.

The Rosewood Limited. That was the first production PRS with a rosewood neck.