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vchizzle
01-30-2013, 11:02 AM
Ugh...
the 2 main ones I'm looking at are the Singlecut HB II and double cut both with Piezo. Make me want it.

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01-30-2013, 11:18 AM
Light, Plays well acoustically when the family is asleep, volume knobs out of the way, full/warm notes, and really quite beautiful with the f-holes.

Danerada
01-30-2013, 11:24 AM
To add to what Hans said - also rocks your entire face off through a Marshall 100 watt head and 4x12...

I find with the Piezo on about 3 or 4 and the neck pickup selected with the one on about 7 or 8 is just about the best clean tone I can get....or have heard.

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01-30-2013, 11:32 AM
...and because if it's good enough for Mike Scott... :biggrin:

veinbuster
01-30-2013, 11:34 AM
When I have to travel with only one guitar, it is almost always a hollowbody with piezo. If is a very versatile guitar, is light and comes in a reallly compact case.

Danerada
01-30-2013, 11:35 AM
-[ @ n $ 0 |v| a T ! ©;45576']...and because if it's good enough for Mike Scott... :biggrin:

Amen to that!!!!!!

PRSHB2
01-30-2013, 11:38 AM
As Hans said - LIGHT and those F-holes! Add in the Piezo and you have a guitar with multiple personalities. I can't really help you with the decision on a SC or a DC. I see myself having both someday. Mine is a Doublecut.

You know you want one
http://jeffblack.smugmug.com/photos/i-bh2VRSt/0/XL/i-bh2VRSt-XL.jpg

Let us know which way you decide to go!

Danerada
01-30-2013, 11:42 AM
http://jeffblack.smugmug.com/photos/i-bh2VRSt/0/XL/i-bh2VRSt-XL.jpg



absolutely beautiful....

LSchefman
01-30-2013, 11:43 AM
I want this one.



You know you want one
http://jeffblack.smugmug.com/photos/i-bh2VRSt/0/XL/i-bh2VRSt-XL.jpg

Let us know which way you decide to go!

vchizzle
01-30-2013, 11:45 AM
What pickups came in them before the 5708s?

Danerada
01-30-2013, 11:47 AM
What pickups came in them before the 5708s?

I believe it was Archtops.

thornie
01-30-2013, 11:49 AM
I love those SC HB IIs so much. I'm dying for a Black Slate one, but PRS discontinued that finish. Very difficult to find. I always have the same problem I have when looking to buy a new PRS... What color?!

garrett
01-30-2013, 11:58 AM
You get twice as many curves!

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v686/lgbclp/Guitars/DSCN0930.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v686/lgbclp/Guitars/DSCN0926.jpg

And the older ones came with McCarty Archtop pickups, which were an underwound version of the regular McCarty pickups.

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01-30-2013, 12:00 PM
You get twice as many curves!

And the older ones came with McCarty Archtop pickups, which were an underwound version of the regular McCarty pickups.

Those were my favorite pickups for a long time. If you play a Matchless or Bad Cat with the EF86/EL84 configuration, nothing sounds better IMO.

Buildermike
01-30-2013, 12:20 PM
Only pic I have available at the moment since I'm on the road. One of of finest moderator surgically repaired feet are in the back ground.

http://i922.photobucket.com/albums/ad68/buildermike/20120915_152048.jpg

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01-30-2013, 12:21 PM
Dr. GAS says "Read this thread twice and call me in the morning."

http://prsguitars.com/forum/showthread.php?1014-Archtop-and-Hollowbody-pics&highlight=hollowbody

PRSHB2
01-30-2013, 12:27 PM
And the older ones came with McCarty Archtop pickups, which were an underwound version of the regular McCarty pickups.
I never knew this before. Mine has the regular McCarty pickups in it - not the Archtop, but I would much prefer the 57/08's. The sad part is that I got this when PRS was handing out free 57/08 pickups for newly purchased PRSi and I was too afraid to ship mine off since it's a Private Stock. I'd do it in a heartbeat now, I really missed out!

Danerada
01-30-2013, 12:27 PM
-[ @ n $ 0 |v| a T ! ©;45607']Dr. GAS says "Read this thread twice and call me in the morning."

http://prsguitars.com/forum/showthread.php?1014-Archtop-and-Hollowbody-pics&highlight=hollowbody

Well...if that doesn't do it, then vchizzle is dead.

PRSHB2
01-30-2013, 12:42 PM
Well...if that doesn't do it, then vchizzle is dead.
LOL!!!!

This is what sold me on them:

http://youtu.be/hnWqpEMc9II

vchizzle
01-30-2013, 12:49 PM
Well...if that doesn't do it, then vchizzle is dead.
Well that'll give me some reading material at work today!
Thanks everyone - keep piling on!

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01-30-2013, 12:50 PM
I love everything about the HB2 - except the birds. They're always going the wrong way. :proud:

FJ4
01-30-2013, 02:51 PM
Right, before the 57/08´s it was the Archtops pickups which were underwound McCarty´s; excellent pickups very touch sensitive, open and clear. I have one and highly recommend the Hollowbody II, it is also PRS´s best selling hollowbody guitar.

Egads
01-30-2013, 04:09 PM
Do it! Do it!

rugerpc
01-30-2013, 04:12 PM
Go ahead - it's only money!

LJD
01-30-2013, 05:08 PM
Hope this helps
http://i784.photobucket.com/albums/yy124/jonco74/IMG_0345.jpg
http://i784.photobucket.com/albums/yy124/jonco74/IMG_0348.jpg

vchizzle
01-30-2013, 11:50 PM
Hope this helps
http://i784.photobucket.com/albums/yy124/jonco74/IMG_0345.jpg
http://i784.photobucket.com/albums/yy124/jonco74/IMG_0348.jpg

Daaaayyyum - that's sexy.

vchizzle
01-31-2013, 12:56 AM
I'm pretty much going out of my mind right now. Looking at all these pics, browsing the stores and looking for clips/vids. Singlecut or double...it just goes on & on. I know I really just need to go play some. Then I think, maybe I should just go back to looking for a p22, which was my original idea. I guess I'll know what fits me best when I try them out, but damn if I'm not racking my brain right now.

PRSHB2
01-31-2013, 12:59 AM
Something to be prepared for when you first pick one up. You will be shocked as to how light it is. The lack of a center block makes a BIG difference. It still surprises me and I've had mine for almost 4 years.

vchizzle
01-31-2013, 01:09 AM
Yes, I've read that - I have. McCarty that's ultra light, maybe 6.5-7#, so I'm kinda used to that. I see HBs are usually less than 6#.

garrett
01-31-2013, 07:52 AM
It feels more like an acoustic weight wise. I love how you can just throw it around on the strap when playing. And the glorious, musical feedback...

Mine is 5.5 lbs, no piezo. But my SE Soapbar II is only 6 lbs!

Sage
02-01-2013, 04:09 PM
The McCarty Archtop pickups absolutely sucked. PRS switched to 57/08 pickups in 2010 for the Hollowbody models and it makes an enormous difference. I replaced the pickups in my 2002 Hollowbody II and it changed the guitar from a weak, muddy mess into a tone monster. It sounds like an ES-335 with a fuller, more thunderous bottom end.

I eventually removed the 57/08s to put them back in the guitar I had stolen them from, and put in a set of GFS Classic II pickups (http://guitarfetish.com/GFS-Classic-II-Alnico-2-Vintage-Wound-Nickel-Humbucker-_c_88.html). They're a tiny bit less full than the 57/08s, but very, very close in tone. If you don't want to shell out the cash for 57/08s I would highly recommend these as an alternative, especially since they're potted, which is useful in a hollowbody.

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02-01-2013, 04:20 PM
The McCarty Archtop pickups absolutely sucked.

Which amp were you pairing them with and what is the genre of music you were trying to play with them?

Dirty Bob
02-01-2013, 04:22 PM
The McCarty Archtop pickups absolutely sucked. PRS switched to 57/08 pickups in 2010 for the Hollowbody models and it makes an enormous difference. I replaced the pickups in my 2002 Hollowbody II and it changed the guitar from a weak, muddy mess into a tone monster. It sounds like an ES-335 with a fuller, more thunderous bottom end.

I eventually removed the 57/08s to put them back in the guitar I had stolen them from, and put in a set of GFS Classic II pickups (http://guitarfetish.com/GFS-Classic-II-Alnico-2-Vintage-Wound-Nickel-Humbucker-_c_88.html). They're a tiny bit less full than the 57/08s, but very, very close in tone. If you don't want to shell out the cash for 57/08s I would highly recommend these as an alternative, especially since they're potted, which is useful in a hollowbody.


I completely disagree with the statement that McCarty Archtop pickups suck. I actually believe they are one of the most underrated pickups in the entire PRS lineup. I have owned pretty much all of the newer vintage line...almost all of the 57/08 versions, 59/09's, 53/10's. In addition I have played or owned almost every pickup that PRS has ever made (with the exception of the deep dish and chainsaw)...and I think the archtops are about perfect. I get some of the thickest Albert King tones imaginable with them. In your situation it might have been the particular pickup/guitar combo...it just may not have worked for whatever reason for you...

Sage
02-01-2013, 04:30 PM
-[ @ n $ 0 |v| a T ! ©;46389']Which amp were you pairing them with and what is the genre of music you were trying to play with them?

I was playing classic rock through a 50-watt Marshall JTM. Think early Rush. Terrible pickups for that. I did have some success with the Archtops playing through the neck pickup with a clean amp for a soft, jazzy tone, but I get only a limited use out of that sound.

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02-01-2013, 04:39 PM
I was playing classic rock through a 50-watt Marshall JTM. Think early Rush. Terrible pickups for that. I did have some success with the Archtops playing through the neck pickup with a clean amp for a soft, jazzy tone, but I get only a limited use out of that sound.

Ok. Now it makes sense. Archtops are great pickups for a lot of genre's. Any blanket statement that they suck is hard to swallow. I appreciate the clarification.

Sage
02-01-2013, 04:43 PM
Honestly, I still think the 57/08s are a better choice, even outside my preferred genre. My experience with the Archtops is that even for cleaner tones, they just weren't very articulate in comparison. When I put the 57/08s in, it was like the whole guitar came out from under a blanket.

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02-01-2013, 05:15 PM
Honestly, I still think the 57/08s are a better choice, even outside my preferred genre. My experience with the Archtops is that even for cleaner tones, they just weren't very articulate in comparison. When I put the 57/08s in, it was like the whole guitar came out from under a blanket.

Fair enough!

Canadian PRSGUY
02-01-2013, 06:17 PM
Ya get 1 or 2 or whatever


http://i76.photobucket.com/albums/j39/Satim-666/Front3.jpg


http://i76.photobucket.com/albums/j39/Satim-666/Front.jpg


They are awesome

AaeCee
02-01-2013, 06:53 PM
I'm a big fan of the HB I, especially with a spruce top, and most especially the deep dish version marketed as the Archtop Jazz. I like the somewhat rounder tone from the mahogany back, and the fact that it's made by routing out a single fat piece of wood, rather than gluing it to the sides. I'd love to see one of the enormously thick unfinished pieces of mahogany they used to make the HB Jazz.

As for pickups, those with 57/08's I've played sounded great, and I've gotta believe that the 53/10's would be ideal as well. I loved the McCarty Archtop pickups in the HB Jazz, but not as much for some reason in the other HB's.

t.shamone
02-01-2013, 08:21 PM
Great guitars........ get it!

'98 HollowBody II

http://i810.photobucket.com/albums/zz25/tshamone/HBII.jpg

Dirty Bob
02-01-2013, 08:41 PM
I'm a big fan of the HB I, especially with a spruce top, and most especially the deep dish version marketed as the Archtop Jazz. I like the somewhat rounder tone from the mahogany back, and the fact that it's made by routing out a single fat piece of wood, rather than gluing it to the sides. I'd love to see one of the enormously thick unfinished pieces of mahogany they used to make the HB Jazz.

As for pickups, those with 57/08's I've played sounded great, and I've gotta believe that the 53/10's would be ideal as well. I loved the McCarty Archtop pickups in the HB Jazz, but not as much for some reason in the other HB's.

I have the McCarty Spruce top in Black with Birds and I just eat it up every time I play it...for some reason the Archtop pickups just work in this model...I play in a hard rock/heavy blues band and have put it through Mesa's, Rivera's, Bogners, Marshall's, Zinky, PRS, etc...and it just screams warm thick and fat.

that being said any of the vintage PRS pups IMHO would be a good match.

rocguitar
02-02-2013, 08:45 AM
2005 Hollow Body II 20th Anniversary w/ Artist Package


http://i294.photobucket.com/albums/mm105/rocguitar/SNC11183.jpg
http://i294.photobucket.com/albums/mm105/rocguitar/SNC11185.jpg
http://i294.photobucket.com/albums/mm105/rocguitar/SNC11181.jpg

11top
02-02-2013, 09:20 AM
http://prsguitars.com/forum/showthread.php?3110-ngd-I-ALMOST-MADE-IT-OUTTA-THERE-I-SWEAR-I-DID!

vchizzle
02-02-2013, 01:16 PM
http://prsguitars.com/forum/showthread.php?3110-ngd-I-ALMOST-MADE-IT-OUTTA-THERE-I-SWEAR-I-DID!Good Lord.

vchizzle
02-02-2013, 01:45 PM
Well on an impromptu trip to a store, since I was in semi close proximity, I played a HB II(doublecut) with 5708's. A brief encounter, because I didn't have a ton of time. Played thru an SE50 head/2x12 cab. I dialed the amp in with a Mira since I've at least played one before, then quick tried a Mira 25th soapie(also really cool sounding). I used the mixmag jack.

Initial impressions were this:
The HB has a "woodiness"(don't like the term, but not sure how to describe) to it's tone that's very warm but clear. I tried both clean and with high gain, a little more with gain because I play more gain than straight clean and I wanted to get an idea of what it would sound like under my normal playing conditions. It's got a certain punchiness and low end response that most solid bodies don't have. Or maybe it's just a different type of bottom end. At any rate, it's a very "real" and upfront tone that's different to me - probably because I don't have any hollow body guitars. I think Emil Werstler described them being "honest", which seems accurate. I'm excited to hear the HB II, Singlecut hollow side by side along with a 5708 McCarty and a P22. Those are the main guitars I've got in the running for my next purchase. Either HB guitar would give the most diversity in what I already have for guitars.

Egads
02-02-2013, 03:25 PM
Well on an impromptu trip to a store, since I was in semi close proximity, I played a HB II(doublecut) with 5708's. A brief encounter, because I didn't have a ton of time. Played thru an SE50 head/2x12 cab. I dialed the amp in with a Mira since I've at least played one before, then quick tried a Mira 25th soapie(also really cool sounding). I used the mixmag jack.

Initial impressions were this:
The HB has a "woodiness"(don't like the term, but not sure how to describe) to it's tone that's very warm but clear. I tried both clean and with high gain, a little more with gain because I play more gain than straight clean and I wanted to get an idea of what it would sound like under my normal playing conditions. It's got a certain punchiness and low end response that most solid bodies don't have. Or maybe it's just a different type of bottom end. At any rate, it's a very "real" and upfront tone that's different to me - probably because I don't have any hollow body guitars. I think Emil Werstler described them being "honest", which seems accurate. I'm excited to hear the HB II, Singlecut hollow side by side along with a 5708 McCarty and a P22. Those are the main guitars I've got in the running for my next purchase. Either HB guitar would give the most diversity in what I already have for guitars.

I've got a P22 (with 53/10s) and a SC Hollowbody Standard with 57/08s. Both are great, but the P22 is such a different beast than the HB. To me, there's a big difference between the single and double cuts, with the singles being fully hollow. I love the interaction with the amp more than any other guitar I have.

Good luck with the decision. I can't wait to see what you end up with.

vchizzle
02-02-2013, 03:41 PM
2005 Hollow Body II 20th Anniversary w/ Artist Package


http://i294.photobucket.com/albums/mm105/rocguitar/SNC11183.jpg
http://i294.photobucket.com/albums/mm105/rocguitar/SNC11185.jpg
http://i294.photobucket.com/albums/mm105/rocguitar/SNC11181.jpg
Tell me more about your 20th. anything and everything.

vchizzle
02-02-2013, 03:54 PM
One thing I'm really curious about is... I love 5708's but, I usually like a slightly hotter pickup so the Archtop pickups are a big question mark for me.

AaeCee
02-02-2013, 04:13 PM
One thing I'm really curious about is... I love 5708's but, I usually like a slightly hotter pickup so the Archtop pickups are a big question mark for me.All I can tell you is that in my Archtop Jazz, the archtop pickups really surprised me. I bought it thinking that I would most likely change them, but it sounded so damn good with the archtops, that keeping them was a no brainer. Very versatile; they sound great for jazzier tones, get extremely close to 335 tones (but clearer) for blues and the like, and they can sound surprisingly fat on the bridge for killer lead tones. Like I said, their tones and versatility really took me by surprise, in that guitar at least.

Sage
02-02-2013, 11:41 PM
One thing I'm really curious about is... I love 5708's but, I usually like a slightly hotter pickup so the Archtop pickups are a big question mark for me.

The McCarty Archtops were designed for the original PRS Archtop guitar, which had a body twice as deep as the Hollowbody II. With all that room inside, the pickups were designed to be low output to help limit feedback. The 57/08s are definitely hotter.

vchizzle
02-04-2013, 10:43 PM
Can anyone who's played both, describe the tone difference between the single & double cut on the mag pickups?

LJD
02-05-2013, 03:02 AM
Single cut has better/easier access to the higher frets.

DISTORT6
02-05-2013, 06:11 AM
Nuthin' Fancy.....HB Spruce. It's a metal machine. :proud:

http://i221.photobucket.com/albums/dd150/DISTORT6/100_0338.jpg

garrett
02-05-2013, 07:02 AM
Single cut has better/easier access to the higher frets.

I think you mean double cut...

vchizzle
02-11-2013, 09:48 PM
Well I played a single and a double cut HB II and think I prefer the overall electric tone of the SC HB II. I hadn't much considered the hollowbody I because I didn't know how many were on the market, but I don't want to rule them out either. Or the Singlecut standard HB...but I don't see any of those out there anymore really. I doubt I'll be able to try a SC HB I or a standard before buying though.