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Gtrnut
01-31-2013, 03:18 AM
I have a HB2 with 57/08s which I am happy with, and a late 90s McCarty which I have put 53/10s in.
After getting the HB2 the McCarty pickups seemed dull so I was going to put the 53s in the HB and the 57s in the McCarty, but I thought I'd try the 53s in the McCarty first.

The McCarty sounds great except I am missing the fatness of the McCarty pickups for singing leads and chunkier power chords.
I have seen some utube clips of a Smokeburst which seems to nail the sound I am after which I presume is mainly due to the non etched 57/08s.

My options seem to be:

Buy a set of non etched 57/08s which are hard to get.
Is there much variation in quality with these?

or
Buy a Smokeburst or a 1957 / 2008.
I like the look of both guitars so I am interested in your opinions as to which would sound/play better between these two and which would be as safer purchase as I am not able to see or play it before buying.

Thanks for your thoughts.

Twinfan
01-31-2013, 04:34 AM
If you like your current McCarty, I'd just buy some 57/08s, 59/09s or any other good PAF-style pickups. I find the McCarty pickups quite dull, and any one of a number of PAF style pickups will sort it right out :)

Gtrnut
01-31-2013, 05:19 AM
If you like your current McCarty, I'd just buy some 57/08s, 59/09s or any other good PAF-style pickups. I find the McCarty pickups quite dull, and any one of a number of PAF style pickups will sort it right out :)

Thanks Twinfan, Having the 57/08s in the HB is great but I need a fatter pickup which still has clarity- not a fan of 59/09s from what I have heard. I know that there are lots of options with PAF style pickups - I have looked at Sheptone which might work.
I would preferably keep to PRS if possible.

I do like the 53/10s so having another McCarty is worth considering.

Twinfan
01-31-2013, 05:43 AM
If you want another guitar, I'd grab a smokeburst if you can find one. Otherwise, snag some 57/08s!

Gtrnut
01-31-2013, 06:30 AM
If you want another guitar, I'd grab a smokeburst if you can find one. Otherwise, snag some 57/08s!

Thanks again, this makes sense but is there any reason to get a McCarty 1957 / 2008 over a Smokeburst ?

I know about the gloss / nitro finishes and neck wood difference but do not know how these differences effect playing and sound.
Also whether the early (1957 / 2008) pickups were better or less consistent the latter non etched in the Smokeburst?

Twinfan
01-31-2013, 06:47 AM
I wouldn't worry too much about the pickups - they all vary to a certain degree, and you won't know what you don't have ;)

I'd go for a smokeburst for the nitro finish and flametop. I don't like the quilts and poly finish of the 57/08 Limiteds. If you have a little more cash available, the Shootout McCartys are supposed to be excellent, and I think they have nitro too.

Gtrnut
01-31-2013, 03:02 PM
I know pickups can be "like a box of chocolates"!
A Smokeburst would be very nice.... now to see if I can negotiate another guitar:biggrin:

gush
01-31-2013, 10:16 PM
I wouldnt dismiss the 5909s so quickly. Do yourself a favor and try a guitar with these pickups. It really depends on what youre after. What i like about them is the pronounced low mid when full volume and how they clean up with pot rolled back. It seems to me when the vol pot is rolled back a bit these pickups respond well to different amounts of pick attack. I have a live recording of our band and im surprised how different my cu24 sounds just by manipulating vol/ tone pot and pick attack. The live recording has 4 songs and it doesnt sound like the same guitar was used on all 4 songs.

Gtrnut
02-01-2013, 02:46 AM
I wouldnt dismiss the 5909s so quickly. Do yourself a favor and try a guitar with these pickups. It really depends on what youre after. What i like about them is the pronounced low mid when full volume and how they clean up with pot rolled back. It seems to me when the vol pot is rolled back a bit these pickups respond well to different amounts of pick attack. I have a live recording of our band and im surprised how different my cu24 sounds just by manipulating vol/ tone pot and pick attack. The live recording has 4 songs and it doesnt sound like the same guitar was used on all 4 songs.

I'm sure they would suit a lot of people, but I am after a more vintage low output tone. I will check them out if I get a chance though (no local PRS dealer).

Albrecht Smuten
02-01-2013, 03:59 AM
All citey, foolz!