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tmac65
02-12-2013, 11:45 AM
I'm in the market for another guitar. The Brent Mason Sig looks like an interesting alternative to some Teles I've been looking at. Since Brent was always a Tele-guy, I figured it has to cover that tone pretty much dead-on for him to switch.

Has anyone played one yet? Thoughts?

PRSHB2
02-12-2013, 11:59 AM
I'm also interested in this model as well. Subscribed.

tfancil
02-12-2013, 03:35 PM
I'm waiting on mine to be built and shipped to me:)
tfancil

jfine
02-13-2013, 06:28 AM
I'm dying to try one! I've seen some demos online, including one of Brent playing one on a killer version of "Workingman Blues", and it seems like it does the Tele thing quite well. (It would have to, for Brent to go for it, eh?) Paul and Brent have designed one for me, and they don't even know it!:D My wallet is having fits already...

yankeebulldog
02-13-2013, 06:31 AM
I've seen some demos online, including one of Brent playing one on a killer version of "Workingman Blues", and it seems like it does the Tele thing quite well. Can you share the link for this? The only one I see of Brent playing that song is an NF3 from NAMM 2012.

MrGuitarDon
02-13-2013, 06:56 AM
It looks like a great instrument. Brent is incredible. The Johnny Hiland model was excellent too.

jfine
02-16-2013, 05:26 AM
yankeebulldog--I went looking for the vid and it is indeed from 2012 NAMM, and the guitar is an NF3. Sounds good, though--but so far the only clips I've found with the single-coil sounds on the Brent Mason guitar are the short ones from the 2013 NAMM, and that's really got me intrigued. I guess I'll have to wait until the guitars start showing up in the stores, but if the clips are anything to go by, I think the Brent Mason is going to be my next guitar.

yankeebulldog
02-21-2013, 06:51 AM
Does anyone happen to know what kind of birds this model is supposed to have? The ones that have shown up in stock and in the demos have dirt birds.

Also, would it be safe to assume the frost blue and platinum models will have white pickguards like the NF3 and DC3?

WEDGE
02-21-2013, 07:41 AM
Brians has one in stock in CT, have not been down to check it out.....shocked at the cost....barely over $2K (posted price)..........seems like the steal of the line.

TGSCAN
02-21-2013, 07:50 AM
I got one yesterday.. it feels amazing.. The body carve must be different... pups look great.. will plug in today.. probably gonna be hard to put it down.. will toss up a pic in a bit here.

Great guitar is my initial thinking.

Buildermike
02-21-2013, 09:23 AM
This model has my interest now, it didn't at first though.

yankeebulldog
03-06-2013, 09:01 PM
Got a chance to try this one out today as it showed up to my doorstep:
http://i980.photobucket.com/albums/ae284/yankeebulldog97/IMG_0470_zpsac85e100.jpg
Awesome tones. This thing smokes. Love the neck profile. The 408 neck in this seems to sound fuller to me than it did in the Siggy. It can definitely do Strat tones in spades, better than the SAS or the AP Studio in my opinion. It's like a more versatile DC3. Haven't played around much with the bridge pickup with much gain, only my Dallas II and my Marshall JMP-1 non-boosted, but it sounds pretty good. The bridge is hot enough that the single coil tones are still fairly thick as advertised.

justmund
03-06-2013, 09:16 PM
Hey YBD, is the middle position the middle PU, or both 408s?

jfb
03-06-2013, 09:39 PM
I need to put black bobbin 408's in something stat.

yankeebulldog
03-06-2013, 09:53 PM
Hey YBD, is the middle position the middle PU, or both 408s?

It's the middle 305 pickup. I had to go check that once you asked since I pretty much don't use the 3 position. Unless it's got a 5 way super switch, you couldn't do both 408s in the 3 position and still get the quack of the single coils in 2 and 4.

yankeebulldog
03-06-2013, 09:59 PM
I need to put black bobbin 408's in something stat.

I'm now very curious to see how this overwound narrow 408 bridge would sound in the neck position with the full sized 408 in the bridge. I did a short low volume test of this with my 5153 and it holds up pretty well in high gain situations. Pretty much on par with the 57/08 in my AP Studio gain wise.

justmund
03-06-2013, 10:06 PM
It's the middle 305 pickup. I had to go check that once you asked since I pretty much don't use the 3 position. Unless it's got a 5 way super switch, you couldn't do both 408s in the 3 position and still get the quack of the single coils in 2 and 4.
I've got a CU22 Soapy and much prefer this switching than just the middle PU on pos 3. I wonder if it would be a difficult mod?

I also wonder if it wouldn't look better with a NF in there... I'm thinking if I got a BrM I'd swap the 305 out for a NF...

yankeebulldog
03-06-2013, 10:34 PM
I've got a CU22 Soapy and much prefer this switching than just the middle PU on pos 3. I wonder if it would be a difficult mod?

I also wonder if it wouldn't look better with a NF in there... I'm thinking if I got a BrM I'd swap the 305 out for a NF...
Like I said, that switching would be impossible unless it had a super 5 way switch. It would be an easy enough mod to replace the switch.

I actually like the 305 in the middle for getting the 2 and 4 position "strat" tones with the 408s split. You'd lose that with an NF in there since those don't really split.

justmund
03-06-2013, 10:43 PM
Like I said, that switching would be impossible unless it had a super 5 way switch. It would be an easy enough mod to replace the switch.

I actually like the 305 in the middle for getting the 2 and 4 position "strat" tones with the 408s split. You'd lose that with an NF in there since those don't really split.
Hmm I need to open up the CU22 Soapy and see what the switch looks like, I wonder if PRS went to the trouble of making a special switch, and if it can be ordered as a spare part.

I reckon you'll still get the Strat tones, a NF3/SA NF gets some decent Strat tones in pos 2 & 4, but you just get a bit more tonal diversity with the interactive volume knob. I could be wrong, it could turn into a toneless abomination!

justmund
03-06-2013, 10:44 PM
Hmm seafoam and maple board... oh yes!

jfine
03-07-2013, 04:58 AM
You could use a push-pull pot--I'd put it on the tone control--to add the bridge pickup to whatever's selected on the 5-way. You'd get a few redundant positions--the bridge-only position (#1) and the bridge-and middle (#2) wouldn't change, and the middle position (#3) with the push-pull activated would be the same as #2--but pull the pot on the neck-and-middle position (#4) and you get all three pickups on, and the pull on #5 (neck pickup) gives you neck-and-bridge together. I've got a Carvin DC145 (two humbuckers with coil splitters plus a single-coil in the middle) wired up that way, and it works great. There is some loss of level with the coil-splits on the Carvin, and I understand the Brent Mason doesn't do that--just one of the reasons I want to try one!
yankeebulldog--is that platinum metallic or frost blue? Looks great!

yankeebulldog
03-07-2013, 06:33 AM
You could use a push-pull pot--I'd put it on the tone control--to add the bridge pickup to whatever's selected on the 5-way. You'd get a few redundant positions--the bridge-only position (#1) and the bridge-and middle (#2) wouldn't change, and the middle position (#3) with the push-pull activated would be the same as #2--but pull the pot on the neck-and-middle position (#4) and you get all three pickups on, and the pull on #5 (neck pickup) gives you neck-and-bridge together. I've got a Carvin DC145 (two humbuckers with coil splitters plus a single-coil in the middle) wired up that way, and it works great. There is some loss of level with the coil-splits on the Carvin, and I understand the Brent Mason doesn't do that--just one of the reasons I want to try one!
yankeebulldog--is that platinum metallic or frost blue? Looks great!
It's Frost Blue. Platinum comes with a black guard.

You might be able to add a push pull for both outside pickups but I'm not sure if there is enough height in the cavity for that kind of pot. Alternatively, could add another mini switch if you didn't mind putting another hole in the guard. Also, I'm pretty sure the split tones in that position wouldn't be hum cancelling if that matters to you.

swede71
03-07-2013, 02:10 PM
Im interested in how these new neck joints affect the tone of the guitar compared to the old CEs.I would love to hear a custom with this new neckpocket.

justmund
03-07-2013, 03:24 PM
Im interested in how these new neck joints affect the tone of the guitar compared to the old CEs.I would love to hear a custom with this new neckpocket.
I can't believe you didn't ask if it had a steel trem block or not!!!???

VHTStark
03-07-2013, 03:30 PM
Im interested in how these new neck joints affect the tone of the guitar compared to the old CEs.I would love to hear a custom with this new neckpocket.

I am guessing it would be noticeable since the CE joint is the exact same as the custom's.....just bolted in. The joint on the BM, NF3 and DC3 is much more like a strat and tele. That, coupled with the slightly longer scale and I think it would definitely alter the tone.

swede71
03-07-2013, 03:34 PM
I can't believe you didn't ask if it had a steel trem block or not!!!???

Hahahahaha!Of course i know theres no steelblock but thats the first thing i would change if i bought a BM signature anyway :)

yankeebulldog
03-07-2013, 10:26 PM
Hahahahaha!Of course i know theres no steelblock but thats the first thing i would change if i bought a BM signature anyway :)
Confirmed block is brass. If it was steel, I'd expect it to be mentioned in the specs like the DC3. Just out of curiosity, were does one get a replacement steel block for the modern PRS trem?

swede71
03-07-2013, 10:47 PM
Confirmed block is brass. If it was steel, I'd expect it to be mentioned in the specs like the DC3. Just out of curiosity, were does one get a replacement steel block for the modern PRS trem?

I had my steelblock custom made by Callaham.

yankeebulldog
03-07-2013, 10:53 PM
Thanks. Figured he'd be the guy. Bought quite a few parts from him before I realized I'm not a strat guy.

yankeebulldog
03-18-2013, 03:27 PM
Here are a couple of clips from NAMM that Wildwood just posted:
Lots of cat killing tones, not easy on the ears:
http://youtu.be/A7DYLD-fcEI
This one actually made me laugh a bit:
http://youtu.be/OitFD5SU9kw

justmund
03-18-2013, 06:33 PM
Here are a couple of clips from NAMM that Wildwood just posted:
Lots of cat killing tones, not easy on the ears:
http://youtu.be/A7DYLD-fcEI
This one actually made me laugh a bit:
http://youtu.be/OitFD5SU9kw
I want one.

David Grantham
03-18-2013, 11:57 PM
Very funny video. So does the 408 guitar have a resistor and the Brent Mason model does not?

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03-19-2013, 12:25 AM
Bark like a dog. No, a little dog - while making your belly shake like Santa.

And... what the hell is a Double-Red-Breasted Matress-thrasher?


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OitFD5SU9kw

yankeebulldog
03-19-2013, 03:47 AM
Very funny video. So does the 408 guitar have a resistor and the Brent Mason model does not?

I caught that too. I guess with the single in the middle, you probably don't want that resistor there so the 408s split have just as much high end as the 305? We didn't really A/B this with Pete's 408 PS during our tone fest but obviously there is a lot more going on there than just the pickups and the resistors.

jfine
03-19-2013, 05:11 AM
yankeebulldog--thanks for posting those clips. Killer! Greg Koch is nuts (in a good way!) and he sure can pick! I really want one of those Brent Mason models now...

guitarsong
03-19-2013, 01:31 PM
The Brent Mason model tone wise is the best bang for your buck in the PRS guitar line up. Love mine.

yankeebulldog
04-02-2013, 07:16 PM
Another cool demo....although the amp is the star of this one:

http://youtu.be/hB752mXdE9g