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MarkFromHawaii
03-27-2013, 02:03 AM
I'm a bit sad to find that it's not offered anymore. Personally I did a lot of listening via YouTube between the "H" and the "C" and I thought the "C" was suited more to my tastes. I like that upper-mid growl that EL34 power sections produce. When I received it, I opened it up and found a small Belton 3-spring reverb unit. It's not the lushest verb but being a small unit, it will never "sproing" if the head is knocked about (yes, I tried this test). I also found inside, Winged C EL34s for which I was pleasantly surprised - good tubes. The "C" is for the Cinemag output transformer which adds a bit of cost to the head. I usually use a Bogner Alchemist 2-12 (Celestion Greenback G12M and G12H) open back cab with this head. But I've also open her up with a Marshall 1960A loaded with Greenbacks - very tight and woody bass. Just about any shade of clean can be had on the clean channel but the lead channel is where this amp shines. The key to a great Marshallesque dirt tone with this amp is to carefully set the bass control. Too much and it gets flabby - seems like the sweet spot is between 9 and 12 o'clock. I also place a Boss ME-70 multi-FX in the effects loop for modulation and delay and also use the boost on the ME-70 and/or an Exotic Effects RC Booster. The RC, especially, lets me set a bit of crunch with the lead channel gain and boost with more hair for solos without changing the basic EQ. Anyway, I love this head and would like to see a Custom version of it. How about it Doug Sewell?

LSchefman
03-27-2013, 07:16 PM
The HXDA has a Cinemag transformer, but I'm not sure if it's the same one. If it is and you want a Custom amp, I'd highly recommend it.

In any event, they're sure making great amps, aren't they?

TJIann
03-28-2013, 12:56 PM
I have one of the first 20 "C" amps that were released before they started labelling them "2 channel C" and love it.

alantig
03-31-2013, 06:57 PM
I have one of the first 20 "C" amps that were released before they started labelling them "2 channel C" and love it.

+1.

Buildermike
03-31-2013, 09:15 PM
I have one of the first 20 "C" amps that were released before they started labelling them "2 channel C" and love it.

+1 from another owner of the first twenty.

Em7
04-01-2013, 08:54 PM
The HXDA has a Cinemag transformer, but I'm not sure if it's the same one. If it is and you want a Custom amp, I'd highly recommend it.

In any event, they're sure making great amps, aren't they?

The 50W Cinemag output transformer was blueprinted from a famous 50W Marshall head. All of the 50W amps use the same Cinemag output transformer.

andy474x
04-02-2013, 08:08 PM
So how do you gents like the C's compared to the H's? I've not tried a C but from what I've heard clips of, the cleans sound great and have a bit of a different flavor from the H - a really great EL34 clean that you don't hear very often...

I was also a bit disappointed that the C is being discontinued. I think with appropriate revisions like the H has gotten, it could definitely stay relevant.

John Beef
04-04-2013, 01:17 PM
The differences between transformers are a bit over my head, but I have run 6L6s and EL34s and 6550s all in the same amp and my ears prefer EL34s. I'm sure the C didn't sell well because the H was (on the surface) the same amp for $300 less than the C.

watelessness
04-06-2013, 06:46 AM
I have one of the first 20 "C" amps that were released before they started labelling them "2 channel C" and love it.

I have one also and it is my #1.


So how do you gents like the C's compared to the H's? I've not tried a C but from what I've heard clips of, the cleans sound great and have a bit of a different flavor from the H -

I have both. To my ear, the C has far superiors cleans. The H has more modern dirt whereas the C tends to crunch.

zebraprs
04-06-2013, 07:38 AM
I have one of the first 20 "C" amps that were released before they started labelling them "2 channel C" and love it.

+1 love my 2 Channel C. just purchased a flame maple panel for it yesterday!!!! :)

TJIann
04-09-2013, 12:15 PM
I'm thinking about bringing mine over to PTC to have it housed in paisley with a flame maple face plate :biggrin: