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JoelHarlan
04-07-2013, 12:51 PM
I just purchased an NF3. I was so jazzed to let this beautiful guitar rip last night at my gig. First of all, my band tunes down a half step. Dont ask why, I dont agree with it either. It took about 30 minutes to get it to hold a stable tuning. I suppose it is because of the floating bridge. After that is seemed to hold just fine. I have a custom leather strap that I used for the night. I saw the extra large buttons and thought that it would make it through the gig until I could get some strap locks on it. It DIDN'T! Just before the very first song of the night. BAM the rear of the guitar crashes on to the tile stage so hard it bent the plug on the cable. I didn't understand it. It wasn't easy to get the strap around that large button. I now have a nickel sized chip on the base of my brand new PRS. I was soooooo bummed. I am on my way to get a set of stap locks for it now. I am afraid that the chip will fall out leaving a nickel sized area of bare wood. Does anyone have any suggestions? I will probably have to take it to a luthier for repair. Does PRS do any of this kind of work? What is the recommended strap lock system for this. On a good note, I used another strap for the evening and was extremely careful with it. This guitar has the most amazing tone and feel That I have ever experienced.

Dirty Bob
04-07-2013, 12:58 PM
Yes...talk to Shawn....the PRS Tech Center can fix her right up....You can reach them directly at 410-643-9970 or by email at custserv@prsguitars.com.

very sorry man....welcome aboard ....but wow that sucks!

JoelHarlan
04-07-2013, 12:59 PM
Thank you very much!

Boogie
04-07-2013, 01:54 PM
Oh man. We've all been there and that's why I won't use a new guitar until it has stap lock buttons installed. We all watched a member here nearly drop a new PRS on stage AT PRS because of a strap failure. Sorry to hear of the damage, but luckily that's all there was.

Welcome to the boards.

lgk1208
04-07-2013, 01:56 PM
schaller straps locks:top:. It could have been much worse. welcome:hello: and sorry:(.

CoreyT
04-07-2013, 01:56 PM
I run Schaller Strap Locks on every guitar.
You will not lose a guitar with them.
You also can use your PRS screws and not the ones with the Schallers.

clcwarlock
04-07-2013, 04:19 PM
What do you guys use on Schaller's to keep the nut from getting loose? Lock Tite?

CoreyT
04-07-2013, 04:54 PM
None on mine.
Occasionally you do have to re-tighten it.

Blackbird
04-07-2013, 05:25 PM
What do you guys use on Schaller's to keep the nut from getting loose? Lock Tite?

I just make sure they're tight every time I do a string change.

Also, Schaller's are mostly fail-proof, but must be installed correctly. Make sure the "U" shape is positioned so the open part is facing up. So if the lock disengages, it will still be seated in the U.

jfb
04-07-2013, 09:23 PM
Sorry to hear. And welcome to the forum.

Jazzedout
04-08-2013, 03:10 AM
Dunlop straplock have never failed me as well.
The best system for me, but I think it looks a little strange on a PRS, is the dimarzio cliplock. Have it on my Ibanezes for years and has never failed me. It is a super light strap as well.

Bill SAS 513
04-08-2013, 05:03 AM
Dunlop fan here...one advantage to Dunlops is if you don't have the strap with the locks handy, any strap will stay securely on the bottons attached to the guitar...unless you pull "Victor Wooten" type guitar flips...

Mike Duncan
04-08-2013, 10:12 AM
The only thing I didn't like about the Dunlop system is that you've got to increase the hole size on the guitar for their screws.

hippietim
04-08-2013, 10:16 AM
I've been using Dunlops for close to 30 years. Not a fan of the Schaller's.

dadoffive
04-08-2013, 10:28 AM
+1 Schallers

CoreyT
04-09-2013, 07:15 AM
Interesting video I just ran across on the 'Tube.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=psE7sus3eNM

altoidman
04-09-2013, 08:59 AM
I find the Schaller design to be noisy. Probably not a big deal in a live situation but it may matter to you in the studio.

Em7
04-10-2013, 08:57 PM
Interesting video I just ran across on the 'Tube.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=psE7sus3eNM

The proper tool for installing and removing the washer retaining rings on Dunlap strap locks is a pair of retaining ring pliers. Retaining ring pliers will not leave burrs on the retaining rings.
http://www.homedepot.com/catalog/productImages/300/8c/8c3ee133-7e56-4343-b049-c88f325b4b64_300.jpg

Bill SAS 513
04-18-2013, 07:54 PM
I would imagine I am not the only one that does this, but I love good leather straps, AND PRS buttons, so I usually lengthen strap button holes a bit when I first put the strap on my PRS. just insert a sharp knife into the strap holes and lengthen the straight cut on each end of the strap. Just try not cutting into reinforcement stitches. Also helps if you start with a softer leather.

Hollowbody
06-29-2013, 02:37 PM
I'm a little late to the party here, but I have a lot of guitar and a lot of straps. I don't use locking tuners. I use Fender style strap buttons on my gibbons, PRS and, obviously Fenders. They're shaped very well and don't seem to let the straps fall out like Gibsons. PRS buttons are too big and too shallow...easy to not get them all the way on or for them to pull out when you wrap a cord under them for cord/jack safety. I have about 15 straps and just don't want to put strap locks on all of the...besides, they're metal and can scratch up the guitar. No problem in 25 years with Fender "Funnel" shaped buttons. They just work!

LSchefman
06-29-2013, 02:49 PM
The good news is that the PRS Tech Center (PTC) does fantastic chip repairs.

Gyro
01-13-2014, 11:27 AM
Why are PRS buttons so much bigger than everyone elses? I've had the same thing happen with my PRS CE-22 Alder. Shouldn't this be acknowledged as a problem and corrected by PRS?

toothace
01-13-2014, 12:32 PM
Personally, I LIKE the big PRS buttons.

claythomas
01-14-2014, 01:19 PM
Always have used Schallers. 20 plus years and NO failures. As for Dunlop's I and a few others have experienced failures on those and had to watch for tiny ball bearings just waiting to take us down. Not cool, Tater!

markie
01-14-2014, 03:56 PM
I like PRS buttons as well............ safest stock buttons out there. IMHO

]-[ @ n $ 0 |v| a T !
01-14-2014, 04:26 PM
Shouldn't this be acknowledged as a problem and corrected by PRS?

Not everyone thinks it's a problem. And, it's a cheap item to change if you don't like it.

rugerpc
01-14-2014, 04:30 PM
-[ @ n $ 0 |v| a T ! ;124135']Not everyone thinks it's a problem. And, it's a cheap item to change if you don't like it.

^^^^^^ this

gball
01-15-2014, 02:59 PM
I don't like the Dunlops, had one fail and dump a Les Paul Custom on me. It's a miracle I didn't lose the headstock. The Schaller ones work nicely and seem to be better made.

thieves&foxes
01-15-2014, 03:16 PM
Try Loxx, they are really good.

crgtr
01-17-2014, 01:58 PM
Oh man. We've all been there and that's why I won't use a new guitar until it has stap lock buttons installed. We all watched a member here nearly drop a new PRS on stage AT PRS because of a strap failure. Sorry to hear of the damage, but luckily that's all there was.

Welcome to the boards.

That was an interesting performance! Thought I was gonna have to buy myself a newly damaged guitar that day!

Gyro
02-06-2014, 07:36 AM
Why is it too much to expect guitar manufactuers to fix a problem so that it doesn't have to be dealt with by the customer after the purchase?

phillybri
02-06-2014, 07:42 AM
Schallers over here...

vchizzle
02-06-2014, 08:32 AM
Why is it too much to expect guitar manufactuers to fix a problem so that it doesn't have to be dealt with by the customer after the purchase?Everyone has different preferences on what's best for locks. IMO, PRS went the best route and went with an oversized button. Seems least likely to cause an issue...nothing is failsafe. I've seen every straplock fail for someone. Schaller's are the safest to me and what I use. I may sure to check and retighten once in a while. Lock-tite would probably solve that issue. Dunlops scare me because if the lock mechanism fails, there's nothing to save you.

rugerpc
02-06-2014, 08:36 AM
Why is it too much to expect guitar manufactuers to fix a problem so that it doesn't have to be dealt with by the customer after the purchase?

Welcome to the forum. It is always sad to hear about a guitar getting a ding... We feel your pain.

These responses were posted after you first asked that question.


-[ @ n $ 0 |v| a T ! ;124135']Not everyone thinks it's a problem. And, it's a cheap item to change if you don't like it.


I like PRS buttons as well............ safest stock buttons out there. IMHO


Personally, I LIKE the big PRS buttons.

A problem for you is a solution for someone else. Strap buttons have to be the easiest thing anyone could change on a guitar if they don't like them - certainly easier than even restringing a guitar and tuning it.

Change your buttons to something you like and move on. It is unlikely you are going to convince PRS that their existing buttons are defective or any sort of 'problem'.

AP515
02-06-2014, 09:18 AM
Could the problem have been that you didn't get the strap on well and it just slid off from the oversized button? My solution to that is to take the button off the guitar and then put the strap on the button from the little end (back) and then put the button back on the guitar. This way you don't have to widen the strap (as some do it) and it is next to impossible to get the strap off even if you want to.