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    Craftsmen- woodworkers, metalworkers, artists

    Today I saw a guy making art from hammered copper and other metals. I love to see the act of creating art, as well as the finished creation. Anyone here do any sort of art/craftsmanship?

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    You would have liked a contest the school my daughter got her fine arts degree from. They had a 'make art this weekend' thing where the students created in the studios from Friday night to Sunday night. Some individuals, but mostly teams tossed together for the project. Sculpting, wood working, weaving, painting, movies on the walls.
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    I don't see this as artsy or craftsy so much as another hobby, but I work with wood. Usually, I make small wooden boxes and vases. Here's one in spalted maple...



    And these might have come from that same piece of wood...
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    Quote Originally Posted by cwhenke View Post
    I don't see this as artsy or craftsy so much as another hobby, but I work with wood. Usually, I make small wooden boxes and vases. Here's one in spalted maple...


    Very nicely done, I like it!

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    Quote Originally Posted by cwhenke View Post
    I don't see this as artsy or craftsy so much as another hobby, but I work with wood. Usually, I make small wooden boxes and vases. Here's one in spalted maple...



    And these might have come from that same piece of wood...
    I agree with Shawn, this is cool...

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    This is kind of what I was talking about for diamond birds

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    I build some stuff from metal.

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    I'm a jeweler, I make custom designed stuff regularly. I work in gold, platinum, sterling silver, and my new favorite palladium. I've been tempted to do a miniature gold and sterling silver PRS guitar. I worry I might be violating a copyright if I do though......

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    I also would LOVE to do some diamond bird inlays!!!!!!! Have they ever been done?

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    I also would LOVE to do some diamond bird inlays!!!!!!! Have they ever been done?
    Can you imagine the price tag?????
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hans View Post
    Can you imagine the price tag?????
    When I get a chance this week I'll bring one of my PRSi to work and figure out what it would take just for fun. If I ever do a Private stock , I want diamond inlays! I think string wear might be an issue though, it wouldn't be one you would want to play much. Although a gold and diamond truss cover would be nice.......... I think one would look good on my CU22 goldtop. I think I know what to make myself for my birthday now....
    Last edited by Goldfixer; 07-22-2012 at 11:16 PM.

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    Can't wait to see the truss rod cover!
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    I did a quick estimate on what it would take to do diamond birds this morning. I based it on using 2 mm. diamonds, looks like approximately 150 stones, weighing roughly 4-5 carats. Of course we would be using high quality diamonds, VS clarity, E-F color. Diamonds are going to cost $1500 per carat, labor would be crazy expensive. I would guess I would charge roughly $1500 or more to set them. After thinking more about it, it would be REALLY difficult to set them. The inlays would have to be put into the neck first to level them( I assume) meaning diamonds would have to be set after. Holding the neck while setting them would be a big challenge, darn near impossible. I think the bigger issue would be wear on the settings and on strings. The strings over time would grind down the prongs holding the diamonds, and the diamonds would reek havoc on the strings. It would have to be a looker, not a player. I'm going to start laying out a truss cover today, I'm trying to figure out what design to use first.........

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    Quote Originally Posted by Goldfixer View Post
    I did a quick estimate on what it would take to do diamond birds this morning. I based it on using 2 mm. diamonds, looks like approximately 150 stones, weighing roughly 4-5 carats. Of course we would be using high quality diamonds, VS clarity, E-F color. Diamonds are going to cost $1500 per carat, labor would be crazy expensive. I would guess I would charge roughly $1500 or more to set them. After thinking more about it, it would be REALLY difficult to set them. The inlays would have to be put into the neck first to level them( I assume) meaning diamonds would have to be set after. Holding the neck while setting them would be a big challenge, darn near impossible. I think the bigger issue would be wear on the settings and on strings. The strings over time would grind down the prongs holding the diamonds, and the diamonds would reek havoc on the strings. It would have to be a looker, not a player. I'm going to start laying out a truss cover today, I'm trying to figure out what design to use first.........
    as a collegue i'd avoid diamond birds cause you can't hardly keep them clean from sweat and other dirt.
    it is a guitar and i want to play it - the feel wouldn't be nice ether.
    for at a lot of pavée stuff we use diamonds in SI1 and top wesselton colour g-h quality - means fine white!
    that is way enough and keeps the price much lower.
    no one would watch a 2mm stone with a loupe and even then you won't see big issues.
    here is a ring in gold 750 with an great emerald, 2 raised triangle diamonds and a lot of diamonds around.
    every stone is single enchased! not a cast but truely forged - was a hell of a work!
    sorry for the phrase, but the photo really doesn't do justice.....

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    In my thinking, the diamonds inlaid into a fretboard would need to be embedded into epoxy or hard surface that could create something hard and flat. If the diamonds were set as if in a ring, the jagged edges of the stone would make it very difficlut to play the guitar.

    The second issue would be light. If the diamonds are inlaid into the fretboard, how would light get under the stone to allow them to shine? I'm in no way a jewler, so I may be way off on my assumptions.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shawn@PRS View Post
    In my thinking, the diamonds inlaid into a fretboard would need to be embedded into epoxy or hard surface that could create something hard and flat. If the diamonds were set as if in a ring, the jagged edges of the stone would make it very difficlut to play the guitar.

    The second issue would be light. If the diamonds are inlaid into the fretboard, how would light get under the stone to allow them to shine? I'm in no way a jewler, so I may be way off on my assumptions.
    Diamonds don't require an opening behind them for dispersion of light. In fact this is why the cut is so important. A perfect cut allows light to reflect and return out the top of the stone. A poorly cut diamond will appear dark because light is "leaking" out the sides and bottom of the stone, instead of returning to the eye. Openings are made in rings and such behind them to allow for ease of cleaning, and to reduce metal weight.
    The edges of the diamonds are below the surface of the metal so they wouldn't snag, but you would have an uneven surface, which would be problematic. Years ago there was a company that put diamonds in lucite, they looked like they were floating in it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Goldfixer View Post
    Diamonds don't require an opening behind them for dispersion of light. In fact this is why the cut is so important. A perfect cut allows light to reflect and return out the top of the stone. A poorly cut diamond will appear dark because light is "leaking" out the sides and bottom of the stone, instead of returning to the eye. Openings are made in rings and such behind them to allow for ease of cleaning, and to reduce metal weight.
    The edges of the diamonds are below the surface of the metal so they wouldn't snag, but you would have an uneven surface, which would be problematic. Years ago there was a company that put diamonds in lucite, they looked like they were floating in it.
    Good info Goldfixer, thanks for clarifying that!

    ^^^those inlays would look good with a lot of different colors^^^
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    Quote Originally Posted by Shawn@PRS View Post
    In my thinking, the diamonds inlaid into a fretboard would need to be embedded into epoxy or hard surface that could create something hard and flat. If the diamonds were set as if in a ring, the jagged edges of the stone would make it very difficlut to play the guitar.

    The second issue would be light. If the diamonds are inlaid into the fretboard, how would light get under the stone to allow them to shine? I'm in no way a jewler, so I may be way off on my assumptions.
    hi shawn, you never need a light from below when you have a good cut, just from above.
    when you have a finger in the ring you neither have light from below.
    the holes you see ofter in some rings under the gems are just for cleaning.

    OT: i just watch an old santana concert on tv from 1987 - his guitar of course prs sounds awesome.
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    I hack stuff about. I recently turned this:



    Into this:



    It's for my eldest daughter.

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