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    BMF Version 3.0

    As some of you know, I have an affinity for the SE One. A few years ago I tricked-out a white, mahogany, SE One with US hardware, an adjustable PRS stoptail, and a Deep Dish 2 pickup with exceptional results. That guitar just killed and it was a favorite in the house. I dubbed the guitar "Bad Mutha F$%^r". It was my 1st SE and I was blown away by the finish quality and fretwork. Some of you may recall my rant about SE-snobs that followed. Obviously, that thread died with Birds & Moons (BaM).

    Aaaaaaaaaaaaannnyway...

    I had a co-worker who fell in love with Bad Muth F@#$er. While it was amazing for Voxy shimmer and warm cleans, it was an all-out rock monster through my 25th Anniversary amp and his 5150. He had been a very good friend to me - and he got my back when a screw-ball co-worker tried to railroad me (sometimes the good guys actually win). Anyway... I gave him the guitar.

    6 months (or so) later, I started planning BMF Version 2.0. When I should have followed the winning recipe, I let my inner-geek talk me into a few tweaks. v2 was based on a Korina SE One platform (instead of mahogany) and was 2 Tek'd with brass saddles. I don't know if it's the bridge or the wood. Both? But v2 is pretty different from BMF v1. Acoustically, v2 it isn't as woody. v2 is quite twangy. The big plate on the back of the 2Tek gives it a distinctly hollow and metallic tone like resonator guitar and even a little like a banjo. It is quite "spanky". I think that's why a 2Tek works so well on a tele platform. But I'm not much of a country player so I'm going to try to reclaim the sound of BMF v1 with BMF v3!

    I'll post the progress in this thread.

    An SC58-style 2-piece stoptail would be pretty cool this time around. A PRS stoptail is going on v3 either way. I want to drive the vibration back into the wood as much as possible. I am truly torn about whether or not to go back to Mahogany or stay with Korina. I am leaning toward Korina once more but they are more expensive and I'm trying to fly under the radar with my budget. What can I say, I've pushed my wife too far, too many time, with guitars. The good news is that SE's are quite affordable so it makes well executed experimentation low risk.

    v3 will get a lipstick pickup (slanted) in the neck position. I am pretty stoked about that! I'm thinking a 3-way switch routed behind the bridge (so it's in the usual McCarty position) would be the way to go. A 3-way in the usual LP position isn't very intuitive for me because I don't play LP's. Also, I think I'll try a stacked pot this time instead of adding a 2nd pot (for tone control) and moving the volume pot forward. I'm not a big fan of volume pots under the bridge pup because I hit it too much when I'm playing.

    The color combo really works well for me on v2 but I'm jonesing for an Orange guitar with black trim and the black headstock with black pickguard is all ready to go on a Korina SE One. Next step... buy the donor guitar and send it off to the PTC! I'll keep the updates posted here. Give me a little time to find and fund the donor guitar. I'll post pics of it before it heads to Stevensville.
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    Senior Member sergiodeblanc's Avatar
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    Can't wait to hear more about this guitar, the lipstick in the neck sounds right up my alley!

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    Sound interesting...................
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    I'm watching how this goes with great interest, m'boy!
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    Anyone have a suggestion for a good lipstick pickup or is Seymour Duncan the only real choice?
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    Senior Member sergiodeblanc's Avatar
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    Are you talking Tele style, or Dano style?

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    Dan-O, all the way!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hans View Post
    Anyone have a suggestion for a good lipstick pickup or is Seymour Duncan the only real choice?
    Ron Thorn makes a killer lipstick pickup.

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    Looking forward to this one! I know you said Dano but maybe these might interest you? I am biased of course!

    http://www.kinman.com/guitar-pickups/telecaster/

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    Quote Originally Posted by justmund View Post
    Looking forward to this one! I know you said Dano but maybe these might interest you? I am biased of course!

    http://www.kinman.com/guitar-pickups/telecaster/
    Ok... why are you biased?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hans View Post
    Ok... why are you biased?
    Sorry, the Kinman guy is an Aussie. Never actually heard one IRL, just read good things about them (tone and no hum).

    If I had $600 to spare I'd be trying a set of the P-90s in my CU22 Soapy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hans View Post
    Anyone have a suggestion for a good lipstick pickup or is Seymour Duncan the only real choice?
    All I know of are those and the Kent Armstrong Split Tubes. I have an old set of the Armstrongs in my Ibanez Talman, and they're cool sounding pickups. Choose your bridge pickup carefully, though. Lipsticks are generally very low output.
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    Senior Member sergiodeblanc's Avatar
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    I have a Kent Armstrong "Vintage" Tele pickup in my Tele, and it is really nice, not too expensive either.

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    Kent Armstrong for the win! Just ordered a Hot Gold Split Tube with the reverse wind. Looks like I got the last one, too.



    Also, I am going to keep the black and gold motif. It's the perfect combo for a Korina SE One.
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    Bangin'.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ]-[ @ n $ 0 |v| a T ! View Post
    Kent Armstrong for the win! Just ordered a Hot Gold Split Tube with the reverse wind. Looks like I got the last one, too.



    Also, I am going to keep the black and gold motif. It's the perfect combo for a Korina SE One.
    That's the ticket.
    I have a feeling I'm going to want that guitar.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ]-[ @ n $ 0 |v| a T ! View Post
    Kent Armstrong for the win! Just ordered a Hot Gold Split Tube with the reverse wind. Looks like I got the last one, too.



    Also, I am going to keep the black and gold motif. It's the perfect combo for a Korina SE One.
    Nice. Forgot about the "hot" option.
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    Have you seen the 2012 SE Korina One guitars? Look very cool with the beveled body, old birds and bound neck! SWEET looking axe! Looking forward to watching this shape up...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hopeful Sinner View Post
    Have you seen the 2012 SE Korina One guitars? Look very cool with the beveled body, old birds and bound neck! SWEET looking axe! Looking forward to watching this shape up...
    I have but the binding on the new ones kills it for me. It's too much.

    This guitar is killer and the fretwork is exceptional. I suppose I could just redrill the top for the studs. It would be interesting to hear how the giant hole in the body impacts the tone - especially that close to the studs. But it would be ugly as hell. Maybe I could put an aquarium in there. HAHAHAHAHA

    Should I put some Sole back in the Hole?
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