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    How do the number of people in a club affect your amp sound?

    Played in public for the first time last night.. During sound checks everything sounded fine, but as the room got more people I couldnt seem to get the amp set right where I could have distinguishable tones vs. overpowering the band.. What gives? Play a Bernie and a Vox valvetronix that is miked.

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    From my experience, more people = treble gets sucked out

    As a general rule for live work, don't use too much gain and keep the treble/mid/presence up.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Twinfan View Post
    From my experience, more people = treble gets sucked out

    As a general rule for live work, don't use too much gain and keep the treble/mid/presence up.
    I have the same impression. To me, lower gain and more mids are the key for a comfortable live sound. Too much bass and reverb can be a problem too.

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    The more people, the less reverberant the room becomes, and the fewer room modes. Most players adjust their amps several times during a gig as a room fills up.

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    Is this your sound guy?




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    Quote Originally Posted by JMintzer View Post
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    I always figured a full club = better sound, because...well...it sucks to play to an empty room!

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    Quote Originally Posted by LSchefman View Post
    I always figured a full club = better sound, because...well...it sucks to play to an empty room!
    Believe it or not, full club also affects your stage performance (no one wants to headbang for three people, one of which is your girlfriend)
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    Quote Originally Posted by Albrecht Smuten View Post
    Believe it or not, full club also affects your stage performance (no one wants to headbang for three people, one of which is your girlfriend)
    My girlfriend wouldn't even show up, as she'd worry that my wife might be there and cause a scene.


    Yeah, I know. As if I had a girlfriend.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LSchefman View Post
    My girlfriend wouldn't even show up, as she'd worry that my wife might be there and cause a scene.


    Yeah, I know. As if I had a girlfriend.
    Schef....Your girlfriend says you owe her cab fare and wants her shakeweight back.

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    Quote Originally Posted by captdg View Post
    Schef....Your girlfriend says you owe her cab fare and wants her shakeweight back.
    Ha! If I had a girlfriend, she'd probably need a cane more than a shakeweight! LOL

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    thank you everyone. Great tips.

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    This is a pretty technical link, but give it a go anyways: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Equal-loudness_contour
    In essence, what I take away from it, is that on louder volumes and stages, I always up my mids by a few notches,
    to were in soundcheck or rehearsal levels it goes from sounding "spot on" to sounding "a bit too much",
    when in full gig though, this results in a live "sweet spot" and a tone that is heard very well every time.
    I use Deeflexx baffles these days for on stage monitoring, but still up the mids to the point where it's just a "tad" too much highmid.
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    Thanks for the link!

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    yeah..and a real one at that..Not just someones friend from Best Buy.

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