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    Quote Originally Posted by AP515 View Post
    I was lucky I was on the forum last night. I spent the day being a shade tree mechanic, putting tires on my lawn tractor, and rotors and front breaks on my old Chevy. This is my allergy season and being out in it all day, I was a big red, puffy faced marshmallow. I showered and packed my face in ice and spent some time on the forums.

    When Hans posted Rev 4 and started the clock I was surprised. I was reading the other thread and by the time I found the real one 15 slots were gone. I had the distinct feeling that I better jump or it was going to be too late. Is there a reason to limit it to 25? As one of the few who made it, I'd like to see the limit at 30 since 5 more are willing to put their money where their mouth is. 5 more in a very limited run is still a very limited run. Let's spread the excitement around!
    Yes. And given that people have already offered to give their slot to others, I'm good with it.

    If someone wants to champion another run, get after it. You don't even have to do it the hard way like I did. Call a dealer and get a Wood Library run going. From what I've seen it only takes around 10 guitars.

    PRS hasn't agreed to anything on this Forum Guitar. Who knows... maybe the 10 from a WL run would get made and these will never see the light of day.
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    Quote Originally Posted by veinbuster View Post
    At the risk of prolonging a debate that should probably have ended already. I didn't make the 25, and think that 25 is a good number. I hope all 25 on the list get a guitar and are able to keep it a very long time. My involvement prior to Rev 4 was to try and help make something happen and I feel like it was worth every minute of my mental and emotional energy whether I have one or not.
    Now if a couple of the 25 have a change in circumstances at some point, I'd be happy to take their place - before or after delivery. If every body keeps them, maybe someone will invite me over to play one once in a while. That's good enough for me.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jfb View Post
    Guitar Time Share would be awesome. Six month rotations. You can go first. The only question is specs. While I was thinking tremolo I am open to color options. All this assuming Hans works the magic on Monday which I'm quite certain he is more than capable of doing.
    I'm going to hold-off on bringing this to Jack until things calm down. Also, if people are seriously offering to give up their slot already, I am going to micro-manage this to make sure the order of commitment is honored.

    #26 is Daniel
    #27 is Veinbuster
    #28 is tiboy
    #29 is docbennett
    #30 is shadetree (assuming he claims a dealer soon)

    The 1st of the 25 that goes unclaimed goes to Daniel. The 2nd goes to Veinbuster, and so on.

    But this whole conversation puts the cart before the horse. Next step is for PRS to review the request (when/if I send it to them). My suggestion is that nobody lose any more brain cells over it until we know if they'll even do it.
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    I hope PRS deem us worthy the honor of a Limited Run Forum guitar.

    And, I know it's easy for me to say since I got in line early, but if the number were 30, someone would wish it 35 and so on and so forth. Hey, at least there's a system in place for alternates...

    I'd just like to publicly thank Hans for staying the course. I know the journey isn't over but I can't help but feel we will get the happy ending we so badly want...

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    Quote Originally Posted by docbennett View Post
    Well I for one, was kinda hoping for a limited run or 54....to recreate....or otherwise symbolize.....the number of forum members who made the commitment to post new threads and support the forum during the period when it was said that the forum was in danger of dying on the vine. That number would have been symbolic to me of the origin, continuity, growth and expansion of this forum.

    But then again, I've been told that I am a bit subjective when it comes to this subject.


    Just sayin'.

    Just wondering how that would be realistic since no revision of the guitar made it past 20 backers previously?
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    I've made my point...now I promise to shut up and just see what happens.
    Quote Originally Posted by docbennett View Post
    Well I for one, was kinda hoping for a limited run or 54....to recreate....or otherwise symbolize.....the number of forum members who made the commitment to post new threads and support the forum during the period when it was said that the forum was in danger of dying on the vine. That number would have been symbolic to me of the origin, continuity, growth and expansion of this forum.

    But then again, I've been told that I am a bit subjective when it comes to this subject.


    Just sayin'.
    Someone's pants are on fire.

    Just sayin'.

    Hey Bennett, if PRS does agree to make this one (which is still a shot in the dark) then maybe you can champion the next one. I'll warn you in advance, it's a painful experience. NO good deed goes unpunished.
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    Quote Originally Posted by docbennett View Post
    You are referring to a limited run and it's exclusivity.
    I already have my forum guitar, and it's ultra exclusive.



    If you want, we can talk about a trade for "Serenity".

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    Quote Originally Posted by ]-[ @ n $ 0 |v| a T ! View Post
    Someone's pants are on fire.

    Just sayin'.

    Hey Bennett, if PRS does agree to make this one (which is still a shot in the dark) then maybe you can champion the next one. I'll warn you in advance, it's a painful experience. NO good deed goes unpunished.
    Pretty sure I have dibs on championing the next round. In fact I've been working on it since yesterday. A Santana semi-hollow with mini 408's and a tremolo. Special features include a factory installed Tremol-No and a horizontal rainbow finish (think Al D.'s Prism, but rotated 90 with yellow on top), unicorn horn inlays made from white MoP. What you dudes think? Shredding right!

    I forgot to mention I'm thinking of removing blue from the rainbow so Sergio can own one.
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    Well if I can't get one with gold plating for the price an a new Fender I'm going to throw a serious tantrum, call people names, and try to ruin it for everyone else. So there.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jfb View Post
    I forgot to mention I'm thinking of removing blue from the rainbow so Sergio can own one.
    A rainbow without blue? I'm in!

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    Quote Originally Posted by jfb View Post
    Pretty sure I have dibs on championing the next round. In fact I've been working on it since yesterday. A Santana semi-hollow with mini 408's and a tremolo. Special features include a factory installed Tremol-No and a horizontal rainbow finish (think Al D.'s Prism, but rotated 90 with yellow on top), unicorn horn inlays made from white MoP. What you dudes think? Shredding right!

    I forgot to mention I'm thinking of removing blue from the rainbow so Sergio can own one.
    Sounds good, but make it a fully hollow singlecut with two full size 408s, a piezo bridge, only blue color options, and alternating dancing penguin/turtle/seahorse inlays and I'm in!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Egads View Post
    Sounds good, but make it a fully hollow singlecut with two full size 408s, a piezo bridge, only blue color options, and alternating dancing penguin/turtle/seahorse inlays and I'm in!
    I only want one if they're lefty's re-strung for right handed people.

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    Doc, just gotta comment on demographic. I'm in Australia, it was Noon on a Sunday, I was between going to the farmers market and visiting my grand dad. Jumped online for a bit a there was the opportunity to commit to the 1st forum guitar so I did. I've got no idea how I'm going to afford it but I'll make it happen, I'll have to sell some stuff I don't want to sell but that's life. In fact, I think I'm going to drop the idea of picking up a '88 VY CU24 10-top with birds, that I was just about buy next week. I'm going to look like a tool to the seller, but hey, that's life. I'd love to commit to both, but FG trumps VY.

    Do I feel bad for those who missed out? Sure, but that's life. Do I feel even worse for those in Europe where it would have been stupid o'clock and they would have had zero chance of seeing that thread in time (unless they were coming home drunk, which would have made the decision easier, hey Sergio?), sure and that's bordering on unfair but hey, that's life.

    Hans had set a critical number several times before (20) and we never got there. It took some stones and an ultimatum on his behalf to get the numbers, all 4 were fantastic ideas, but let's face it, if Hans hadn't of set the limit this time, we'd still be here making suggestions.

    I commend and thank Hans for all of his efforts and patience so far, and for what needs to be done now (knee pads compulsory). He said he's a man of his word, and I believe him. Having said that, I won't think any less of him if he says to PRS "I want 25, but there's 30 dudes lined up" and PRS say "well let's do 30 then" and he says "Yes". He had reservations it would get to 25, let alone 30, so that's why I'm down with it if he changes his mind (but totally understand if he doesn't!)

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    Quote Originally Posted by docbennett View Post
    Forgive me for being cynical...but as a moderator...I kinda think you are able to get one if you ask. Perhaps one of the protos..
    And if you knew me at all, you would know that I would NEVER make such a request. In fact, I'm hight insulted you would insinuate such a thing!

    And yes, you're coming off as a spoiled child...
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    Quote Originally Posted by hippietim View Post
    Bennett, really? Seriously? It's a guitar, not a once in a lifetime opportunity to meet Rick Astley. Tell you what, if they don't open up any more spots, you can have mine. That way I'll get it cheaper when you flip it in a few months
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    Quote Originally Posted by hippietim View Post
    Bennett, really? Seriously? It's a guitar, not a once in a lifetime opportunity to meet Rick Astley. Tell you what, if they don't open up any more spots, you can have mine. That way I'll get it cheaper when you flip it in a few months
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    Quote Originally Posted by ]-[ @ n $ 0 |v| a T ! View Post
    I'm going to hold-off on bringing this to Jack until things calm down. Also, if people are seriously offering to give up their slot already, I am going to micro-manage this to make sure the order of commitment is honored.

    #26 is Daniel
    #27 is Veinbuster
    #28 is tiboy
    #29 is docbennett
    #30 is shadetree (assuming he claims a dealer soon)

    The 1st of the 25 that goes unclaimed goes to Daniel. The 2nd goes to Veinbuster, and so on.

    But this whole conversation puts the cart before the horse. Next step is for PRS to review the request (when/if I send it to them). My suggestion is that nobody lose any more brain cells over it until we know if they'll even do it.

    Applause

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    The only way 54 people would have agreed to the concept was if the guitars were free. And even then...

    Hans, nice job! This is for you:


    You've earned it!
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    Quote Originally Posted by ]-[ @ n $ 0 |v| a T ! View Post
    I'm not sure what surprises me more, getting 25 people willing to write a check in 73 minutes flat or the fact that more people keep piling on.
    It is interesting, isn't it? I understand the rationale for the number 25. At the time of your post, Forum history showed that it was difficult to get more than 15 or so people to commit to a guitar design. Everyone had features they liked and hated. That is the nature of design by committee.

    But actually committing to the stated 'final' design and being asked to put your money where your keyboard is is quite another thing compared to the design process itself. When debating the specs, the guitar was a fiction, a temptation, a pleasant dream.

    But, even though PRS has not given the 'go', this is different. The design (by the committee that is this Forum) is SET with limited options - it won't change. It is also the first ever Forum Guitar and there will NEVER be another 'first' if this guitar gets made. Those two facts alone make this guitar something very special.

    In my heart, I believe every Forum Member who is willing to plunk down their money deserves one of these guitars. I may be mistaken, but I thought the idea was for us to design a guitar unique to the Forum, available only to Forum Members to celebrate our community.

    I also understand the commitment issue. The company needs to know that every guitar they make in this special run has a home and will, in fact, be purchased. I get it. The company needs to have a guarantee of some initial number to make it worth their time specing and tooling and that number appears to be 25. So, monstrous and immense Kudos to the first 25 to sign up. Without your commitment, we would not even be having this discussion. If I had known and been online, I would have tried to beat Shawn in posting...

    But the guitar is more 'real' than it ever has been to this point. There are more than 25 people interested and willing to pay. And, no matter what comes down the pike as a 2nd or 3rd or whatever Forum Guitar, there will never be another 1st. Limiting the run to 25 when there are more than that willing to commit doesn't seem to be the community based approach we started with.

    I propose, respectfully, that the commitment to the guitar be limited not by a fixed number but by a signup DATE. Give the entire forum a chance to commit to this one and only FIRST guitar. The initial 25 needed to try get the company interested has been gathered and then some. I propose opening the signup to any Forum Member who was a member before 5/1/13, limit one guitar per member, and each member must commit before 5/31/13 or some nearer date.

    Would it be a tragedy that even 100 of these guitars are built and sold to forum members? 150? The idea was to make the guitar unique to forum members. THAT was what I understood to be the limit on the limited edition concept.

    Maybe I got it wrong.


    EDIT: I was just logging in to move this post to this thread and delete it over there, but one of the mods beat me to it. Saves me the effort, thanks
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    Quote Originally Posted by ]-[ @ n $ 0 |v| a T ! View Post
    I'll me moving most of the comments over to the original thread.

    I need this thread to be clean to maintain a clear head-count.
    And what happened to "I promise?"

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