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    I'm definately curious. Seeing as how I just pulled trigger on a PS I got to see what the cost would be
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    Starlas, I'm out.
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    Couple of random thoughts from me.....


    Not sure about a semi-hollow, I like heavier guitars

    F-hole.....no thanks

    Scale length of 24.5......not a deal breaker but prefer a longer scale and the tension of it

    Fret wire option for DGT/large wire would be preferable for me but not a deal breaker

    Never played a starla pickup so I cannot comment on their tone but dont like the look of them....I know that is superficial but they look odd with the slugs showing through the covers, but I could change em out

    Having said all of that the rest of the spec's sound killer. I could be in if it is not priced out of my range.......would help if the color options had some cool colors that might be unique to this model
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    Again... we can see why there are so many PRS models. Everyone has a preference that could be a deal-breaker. Rev 2 doesn't seem to have the traction of Rev 1 and I'm not taking the idea any further until we find something that will sell 30 guitars. That's the magic number.

    I must admit, I thought the humbucker route would garner more support so people could swap out pups to anything they want. 10% hotter Starla pups would sound great, be special for this run, and would sell fast if you yanked 'em in favor of something else.

    Oh well...

    Lemme give some thought to Rev 3.
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    Subtle changes but I am in on this.....


    Model Name: FG22
    Scale/frets: 25"/22
    Hardware: Nickel
    Top: European Maple (to be hand-selected by Shawn Nuthall & Jack Higginbotham)
    Body: Regular PRS shape from heavy Mahogany
    Neck: Chaltecoco
    Fretboard: Black Ebony (polished)
    Frets: Standard PRS fretwire
    Headstock overlay: Match fretboard
    Headstock Design: Hand-signed by Paul (in gold metallic)
    Truss Rod Cover: Official Forum TRC
    Tuners: Phase 3 with faux ivory buttons to match cream pup rings
    Inlay: Mirror Birds (flying toward the headstock) MOP & Paua Heart
    Pickups: 59/09
    Control Layout: P22 Trem and McCarty 3-way for non-piezo bridges
    Finish: Raw or matte nitro on neck, thin glossy nitro on body
    Case: Silhouette, like Hollowbody case, in black tolex (Black Paisley is WAY too expensive)

    Only 5 options:
    1) Color: Natural with natural back, 2nd, 3rd, 4th, & 5th color to be determined
    2) Neck Carve: Santana, Pattern Regular, Pattern Thin
    3) Bridge: Piezo Trem, Regular Trem, Stoptail
    4) Neck: Flame maple
    5) Frets: DGT

    Dealer: Your usual PRS dealer.
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    Anyone else? If so, now's the time. If not, I'm pushing on to Rev 3.
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    I will not purchase a Tank. So if it's heavy, I am out. I am fine if it's hogged out hollow.

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    Ok... I'm going back to the drawing board with a less expensive spin on Rev 1.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ]-[ @ n $ 0 |v| a T ! View Post
    REV 2: A less expensive option with better balance

    Model Name: FG22
    Scale/frets: 24.5"/22
    Hardware: Nickel
    Top: European Maple (to be hand-selected by Shawn Nuthall & Jack Higginbotham)
    Body: Regular PRS shape from heavy Mahogany (and then routed semi-hollow)
    Neck: Chaltecoco
    Fretboard: Black Ebony (polished)
    Frets: Standard PRS fretwire
    Headstock overlay: Match fretboard
    Headstock Design: Hand-signed by Paul (in gold metallic)
    Truss Rod Cover: Official Forum TRC
    Tuners: Phase 3 with faux ivory buttons to match cream pup rings
    Inlay: Mirror Birds (flying toward the headstock) MOP & Paua Heart
    Custom: Single f-hole on upper body
    Pickups: Starlas wound 10% hotter (brushed?)
    Control Layout: P22 Trem and McCarty 3-way for non-piezo bridges
    Finish: Raw or matte nitro on neck, thin glossy nitro on body
    Case: Silhouette, like Hollowbody case, in black tolex (Black Paisley is WAY too expensive)

    Only 3 options:
    1) Color: Natural with natural back, 2nd, 3rd, 4th, & 5th color to be determined
    2) Neck Carve: Santana, Pattern Regular, Pattern Thin
    3) Bridge: Piezo Trem, Regular Trem, Stoptail

    Dealer: Your usual PRS dealer.
    As the casual outsider who just browses this forum and MIGHT consider this if it was a good spec, I gotta say I'm not surprised 30 people won't agree to that. There is nothing genuinely awful about it, its just WAY out there. Usually small batch guitars are pretty close in spec to a standard model with the exception of a handful of small tweaks that make it unique.....color, truss rod cover, maybe pickups, fret size, fret material, etc. What is listed there is more like someones personal idea of a one-off dream guitar. A certain other guitar maker does limited small batch runs of which I own 2 and its amazing how small things such as a unique color or something simple as using stainless frets can transform a model into someone unique and special. I think if you reel this in, then the response would be more positive.

    I don't think a forum guitar should deviate from things that make PRS a PRS.... such as the 25" scale. 24.5" scale just doesn't appeal to a lot of players because it's tough for people with large mitts....like myself. Semi hollow and or chambered guitars only appeal to a select few. I like the hand signed headstock. That is a perfect example of one small touch that goes a long way and everyone could agree on. I'm sure the ebony board would appeal to a broad base as well. I have experience in trying to get a lot of people to agree and the stance one has to take is to take yourself out of it completely and try to think of options that many people would like. Nickle hardware is something generally liked. Who doesn't like paua or MOP birds? I'd personally take it more seriously if we went with a CU24 or CU22 and just had a unique color, hand signed headstock, engraged truss cover, covered 59/09s, etc.

    Just my 2 cents.

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    Thanks for the input, Drew. All valid points.
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    I dig the semi-hollow idea of V2 but I don't own a guitar with 408s so V1 appealed to me more (with ebony board even more so).

    I think to attract the most people to the idea, it's got to be familiar, not way out there but also feature something not available to the general public. If somehow we could a special run of Deep Dish IIs wound and specced into the guitar, the line might be longer. Even get them specially wound with a bass version as well and call them Deep Dish IIIs. We all know Hans loves them and let's face it, we all want some because of that!

    Obviously custom pickups will cost more, but if the other specs are kept fairly standard it may not be too bad.

    Who'd be up for some Deep Dish action?

    p.s. My vote is for 5-way blade and coil tap (middle pos selects both humbuckers)

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    I liked Rev 2. Oh well.
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    Quote Originally Posted by LSchefman View Post
    I liked Rev 2. Oh well.
    The one time we need a long post and you go short?



    Can you tell us what you liked about Rev 2 in comparison to Rev 1?
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    Quote Originally Posted by LSchefman View Post
    I liked Rev 2. Oh well.
    I know right. I saw semi-hollow and the rest of the build and about fell out of my chair. I'm pretty much in regardless of what we do but that build looked exciting. So did the DC22 based model. I am all for keeping it simple regarding options and want to see this happen badly, but after seeing semi-hollow came up I'd love to have that as an option. I could see one semi-hollow and one solid body in my music room with a bit of budgeting.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jfb View Post
    I know right.
    Concur. This is no time for brevity, Les.

    Quote Originally Posted by jfb View Post
    I could see one semi-hollow and one solid body in my music room with a bit of budgeting.
    So maybe we call the 1st one that gets made "FG2013"!
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    Quote Originally Posted by ]-[ @ n $ 0 |v| a T ! View Post
    The one time we need a long post and you go short?



    Can you tell us what you liked about Rev 2 in comparison to Rev 1?
    easily his shortest post EVER.

    I really liked the semi-hollow part. It seemed a number of people didn't. I don't want to add complexity to the project as I'd likely buy regardless of what we do but having seen that I'd love to see it as an option.

    I also really liked the idea of a traditional sized pickup that exists just wound differently. Easily replaced due to routing, unique enough to sell, special enough to keep. It has it all.

    Regarding the rest of the specs I thought they were spot on. You know how to build 'em Hans.


    Quote Originally Posted by ]-[ @ n $ 0 |v| a T ! View Post
    Concur. This is no time for brevity, Les.

    So maybe we call the 1st one that gets made "FG2013"!
    I like where this is going.
    Last edited by jfb; 05-02-2013 at 05:05 PM.
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    Man you guys almost had me contemplating Rev 2.... and if it was a Santana shape?..... there goes my DeLorean money.

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    Whatever we decide in it would be nice if they were ready to pick up at the Experience......
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    Quote Originally Posted by WEDGE View Post
    Whatever we decide in it would be nice if they were ready to pick up at the Experience......
    Can't go begging for PRS to build one if we can't agree on one. And we're running out of time if we wanna hit X:PRS:2013.
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    Quote Originally Posted by sergiodeblanc View Post
    Man you guys almost had me contemplating Rev 2.... and if it was a Santana shape?..... there goes my DeLorean money.
    You can time travel with me in mine. Safety not guaranteed.

    Quote Originally Posted by WEDGE View Post
    Whatever we decide in it would be nice if they were ready to pick up at the Experience......
    Seems it would be within the realm of possibility.

    Quote Originally Posted by ]-[ @ n $ 0 |v| a T ! View Post
    Can't go begging for PRS to build one if we can't agree on one. And we're running out of time if we wanna hit X:PRS:2013.
    No doubt. I'm trying to think of ways to assist in this process without making it more complex. I'm coming up short.
    Last edited by jfb; 05-02-2013 at 05:29 PM.
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