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    Quote Originally Posted by ]-[ @ n $ 0 |v| a T ! View Post
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    Can you tell us what you liked about Rev 2 in comparison to Rev 1?
    This is the first time anyone has ever asked me to say more. LOL! Never happens. But I digress...

    Loved the semi hollow. Loved the pickups. Loved the fingerboard and headstock materials (though hand signed would be weird on ebony IMHO, it should be inlaid but wouldn't be a deal breaker). Loved the option to not have piezo. Dig the body style. Don't care about the neck material either way. Don't care about the direction the birds fly.

    But big love for the semi hollow idea, and I think the Starla pickups would be awesome, too. Loved the scale length.

    In fact, this is the kind of guitar I would love to own. This is different enough to warrant putting another guitar in the studio. PRS does a GREAT job with the semi-hollow models.

    I was reluctantly on board before. But this was a great idea.
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    Quote Originally Posted by WEDGE View Post
    Whatever we decide in it would be nice if they were ready to pick up at the Experience......
    So far we got nuttin" and I'm pretty sure you can get that at the Experience, with some self-restraint.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LSchefman View Post
    This is the first time anyone has ever asked me to say more. LOL! Never happens. But I digress...

    Loved the semi hollow. Loved the pickups. Loved the fingerboard and headstock materials (though hand signed would be weird on ebony IMHO, it should be inlaid but wouldn't be a deal breaker). Loved the option to not have piezo. Dig the body style. Don't care about the neck material either way. Don't care about the direction the birds fly.

    But big love for the semi hollow idea, and I think the Starla pickups would be awesome, too. Loved the scale length.

    In fact, this is the kind of guitar I would love to own. This is different enough to warrant putting another guitar in the studio. PRS does a GREAT job with the semi-hollow models.

    I was reluctantly on board before. But this was a great idea.
    Spot on. And you know I've been GAS'N bad for a Custom 22 Semi-Hollow Limited. Would love to see it as an option.
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    Here's a crazy idea...many seem to like the 408's (I sure do), but are worried about the non-standard size. We know they can make 408's either bigger or smaller than a standard pickup...what about a set of 408's (with the extra windings engaged in single coil mode) in a standard sized pickup? That would combine three concepts...one of the most popular pickups, the versatility to change and something unique to the forum guitar.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ]-[ @ n $ 0 |v| a T ! View Post
    Anyone else? If so, now's the time. If not, I'm pushing on to Rev 3.
    I liked rev 1, rev 2, and the tweek to rev 2. I think I, and most of the folks that can buy one, would be up for lots of things if it's not too pricey, and is unique. Can we get a poll together that has these and other versions listed and see if we can get more than 30 to agree in principle, and then try to negociate the particulars until we reach the model that gets accepted?
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    I liked rev2.
    24.5 is the Santana scale so I don't feel it is off course. Semi hollow is nice - I like the one I have (so will jfb when he comes to visit it).
    If it goes to rev3 I most want to keep the neck and fingerboard.

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    That rev2 really caught my attention....awesome specs. The revised one I dig as well as I love the 25inch scale. It isn't the end of the world if Hans makes a "REV #3".....there really isn't any rush and we can always vote on final revisions anyway.

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    Quote Originally Posted by veinbuster View Post
    I liked rev2.
    24.5 is the Santana scale so I don't feel it is off course. Semi hollow is nice - I like the one I have (so will jfb when he comes to visit it).
    If it goes to rev3 I most want to keep the neck and fingerboard.
    I'm sure I will. Brent will be taking receipt of a guitar or two very soon so...trip time.
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    I'm just going to throw this out there, and it's just my opinion, and we know what that's probably worth lol

    But wouldn't this be a bit more accessible if we went with something based on a current SE model? I know I'll probably get flamed by some of the Maryland purists, and that's fine (trust me, I wish I had that kind of money to spend on a guitar), but I think something a bit less expensive, say, in the 600-800 range would attract a wider audience based on price alone.

    I currently own an SE custom in Tobacco Burst, it's absolutely gorgeous besides the zebra pickups (hate them), and it sounds very nice. So I've been thinking about what we could to to an SE to make it "special" for a forum guitar:

    Looking at the polls, it looks like people want a double-cut, ebony fretboard, with a black rectangular case.

    So why not a CU24 or Santana body, in a color not currently offered on either of those models, say flame red or black gold, etc. Then add the winning TRC design, Pauls sig on the headstock, and bird inlays that match the body color (sure the inlays would have to be a less expensive material, we can't expect something like red coral on an SE)

    We would still have to make a decision on pups, trem/hardtail, control scheme, etc. , but at the very least we would end up with a unique guitar that looks and sounds great and wouldn't cost a fortune.

    If we wanted to get crazy, maybe a quilted veneer top instead of the standard flame veneer? I'm not a woodworker, so I don't know if this is possible, but it would be very unique to the model.

    Hell, just sitting here typing these random thoughts got me to thinking what my current custom 24 would look like in flame red with a quilted top, ebony fretboard, red birds, black knobs with nickel or even gold hardware....or maybe a double-cut variation of the SE 245 soapy, with maybe a 25" scale instead of 24.5

    Enough of my random thoughts...back to the discussion

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    I was thinking of a similar idea. The price poll picked up 11 more people in the 1-1.5k range. 30 or so SEs could probably be had from a helpful dealer at a good price, and modded with "Forum" mods at the PTC. Also since it's PTC, those who had deal breakers on pu's and other items could have theirs further customized. But I'm just talking out my @zz because I don't know if PTC would be willing to take on the project, and what would make a "Forum" package, etc.
    Whatever everybody comes up with, I plan to do my best to be part of. Rev1,2, 3, or 300.

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    I really liked rev 2 and the semi hollow body. It's different without being too different. I'm willing to go either way on the scale length. While I'm not sure about the Starla pickups, I could always swap them out later. Depending on the price, I'd like to add a forum guitar to my collection (which my wife thinks is already too large).

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    Hans - I have a request -
    Can you edit the OP and add the Rev 1 and the Rev 2 (and Rev 3 as it gets tweaked) to the OP please? - It would save a lot of searching....

    As for timing, I can't do anything this year on a new guitar. I have a wedding to pay for (my own!) and some other debt to settle. A target date of somewhere in the Summer or Fall of 2014 would be better for me and it might give others some time to put some money away.

    Besides - look at how long it takes a company internally to spec a new model and the time frame looks more reasonable given that there are so many more on this particular committee....
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    I'm onboard for Rev 2... Love the piezo option!

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    Hans - just to be clear, the only reason I wasn't keen on Rev 2 is the pickups. And I really like the Starla pickups. One of the most intriguing things about Rev 1 was that it had a pair of small 408s. Also, I'm very curious about the chaltecoco neck. . All the other specs about Rev 1 were good but the Rev 2 specs are even better.

    The more I think about it, I could be up for Rev 2 because I have a set of 53/10s that I think would be stellar in FG22 and I would like the Starlas for my HB II. So I guess I'm saying that I'm in for Rev 2. I'm neutral about the F-hole, semi-hollow, scale length. The one spec I'd really like to stick with is the matte/satin finish on the neck.
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    REV 3

    Model Name: FG2013
    Base Model: DC22 (22-fret Santana)
    Scale:
    24.5"
    Hardware: Nickel
    Body: Solid, 1-piece Mahogany (No maple cap)
    Neck: Firewood (AKA Chaltecoco)
    Fretboard: Dark Ebony (polished) with 10 degree radius
    Frets: DGT fretwire with hidden fret tangs
    Headstock Design: Hand-signed by Paul (in gold metallic) under nitro finish
    Truss Rod Cover: Official Forum TRC
    Tuners: Phase 3 with ivoroid (cream) buttons to match cream pup rings
    Inlay: Birds flying toward headstock in MOP & Paua Heart
    Pickups: Prototype \m/ Humbuckers (Info)
    Control Layout: DC22
    Finish: Raw or matte nitro on neck, thin glossy nitro on body
    Case: Silhouette (small), like Hollowbody case, in black tolex (Black Paisley is WAY too expensive)
    Certificate: Signed by all PRS employees (Like the holiday card)

    3 options:
    1) Color: Natural (Clear), Goldtop with Vintage Mahogany back, Charcoal, *Pearl White, Seafoam Green
    *Metal Model pinstripes in choice of pinstripe color (Extra $$$)
    2) Neck Carve: Santana, Pattern Regular, Pattern Thin
    3) Bridge: Regular Tremolo or 2-piece PRS stoptail (no Piezo option)

    Dealer: Your usual PRS pusher
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    Definitely like this. Only thing that would make it better for me is more color options.

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    Definitely like this. Only thing that would make it better for me is more color options.
    Such as?
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    Hans is a DC22 body the standard prs body? And what is the DC22 control layout.....forgive my ignorance....

    ps.......put a maple cap on this one and it sounds killer.........without the maple cap it sounds killer.............best version yet.....
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    Quote Originally Posted by ]-[ @ n $ 0 |v| a T ! View Post
    Such as?
    If it is all hog we need seafoam green.........
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    Quote Originally Posted by WEDGE View Post
    Hans is a DC22 body the standard PRS body?
    Pre-factory body (Santana)

    Quote Originally Posted by WEDGE View Post
    And what is the DC22 control layout....


    I think a more traditional layout with a 5-way blade would be cool too.
    Pos 1: Full neck Humbucker
    Pos 2: Neck single
    Pos 3: Power Out Of Phase (The POOP)
    Pos 4: Bridge single
    Pos 5: Full Bridge Humbucker
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