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    The Facebook Ubiquity

    More and more, I'm seeing internet content being posted as a link to Facebook instead on being a regular stand-alone web page.

    I don't begrudge Facebook its popularity, but I do protest that I should not have to subject myself to their almost nonexistent privacy policy.

    Businesses and individuals who require me to log into Facebook to see their internet content will simply not have my business or attention.

    How about you?
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    Quote Originally Posted by rugerpc View Post
    More and more, I'm seeing internet content being posted as a link to Facebook instead on being a regular stand-alone web page.

    I don't begrudge Facebook its popularity, but I do protest that I should not have to subject myself to their almost nonexistent privacy policy.

    Businesses and individuals who require me to log into Facebook to see their internet content will simply not have my business or attention.

    How about you?
    Same here... Any forced subscription is immediately discarded. Faceb or whatever...

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    I never link or login with Facebook.

    Just exposes too much - I have TWO jobs that I'd like to keep and all I need is to tick off somebody on the internet and have them use the data on Facebook to try too harm me....

    And before you "poo poo" that, it's already been attempted. I'm much more careful these days about what I say in "public" and who I let know "me".

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    I do it because it's the only way I can find out what my son is up to. Otherwise, I don't see the point in it either except for possibly self glorification and aggrandizement...which I kind of dig
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    I have no issues with facebook, admittedly the default security settings leave a lot to be desired but once you take control of these you have a decent amount of power to restrict your personal information.

    Facebook is a tool and you need to learn how to use it appropriately. It's like using a 9" grinder for the first time, do it wrong and it's gonna end in tears...

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    Dunno...

    I have mixed feelings about F'book, Twitter and the rest. As mentioned above, these things can be viewed as a tool. I have a personal F'book page that I log into once a week or so and a public page to promote my music. Same with twitter.

    Just can't get into them though. There's people who spend hours of each day on there.. People who communicate with their wives, husbands, grlfriends, boyfriends, etc, when they're in the same house!!!

    I also find it a little frighning just how much info people put on there. These things aren't as 'private' as people like to think and your personal info is worth a lot of cash to the right people.
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    I don't use Facebook or Twitter personally. The publishing company that I'm affiliated with has an ad agency handling their social media content that will be up soon, and they're going to be in charge of all that.

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    I have a Facebook account but treat it like a news feed page. So many companies use FB to engage with their audience, so if you want to keep up with things, it makes sense to have an account.

    That said, I find it odd that people want to tell you their every move and seem to want to live their life via Facebook. Strange behaviour indeed.

    I log in to my FB account daily, it's a great place to consolidate news that you actually want to read about. It certainly has its place.

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    No FB for me either. Tried it several times.
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    No social media for me. I did like the FB movie though. Mainly cause that guy has the same name as me. I can't help it. Jesse is a great name.
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    Quote Originally Posted by rugerpc View Post
    More and more, I'm seeing internet content being posted as a link to Facebook instead on being a regular stand-alone web page.

    I don't begrudge Facebook its popularity, but I do protest that I should not have to subject myself to their almost nonexistent privacy policy.

    Businesses and individuals who require me to log into Facebook to see their internet content will simply not have my business or attention.

    How about you?
    Right there with you RugerPC. I barely justify to myself having an email address. No socialist facism for me thank you. Cause that is where the internet is heading if the interent goes Facebook style!!! And no, I do not have/had a facebook account and never will. Seems a little to narcissitic to me.
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    I've got one, I will need it for work in the future... so friend me! I never post though.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ]-[ @ n $ 0 |v| a T ! © View Post
    No FB for me either. Tried it several times.
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    I avoid that stuff like the plague, way too many privacy issues. I know I'm missing out on some cool stuff, but the risks aren't worth it to me.
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    Wow, everyone is hung up about the privacy issues, I've got my settings turned up so there's no problem. The only entity that could possibly grab my personal information (which I chose to share with my friends, or a selection of my friends) is facebook themselves. They already have my information, which I willingly put on their website, so what's the big deal?

    I don't put my home address on there, my credit card details, my tax file number, my drivers licence number etc, it's just a collection of my photos, thoughts and interests. Hmm... kinda like on there, but hang on, ANYONE has access to this, not just my "friends." If there's a privacy issue, then it's not facebooks fault, it's the users for posting the information in the first place, and not controlling it properly.

    What could someone possible do with the information I post on facebook? They can't steal my identity, pillage my bank accounts, kill my dog etc. Where's the risk?

    Who here used Google products? Gmail? You do know once you're logged into gmail, anything you search on is recorded ("collected") in their database? I'm more worried about Google data collection than I am with facebook, but having said that, if you've got nothing to hide, you've got nothing to worry about.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rugerpc View Post
    More and more, I'm seeing internet content being posted as a link to Facebook instead on being a regular stand-alone web page.

    I don't begrudge Facebook its popularity, but I do protest that I should not have to subject myself to their almost nonexistent privacy policy.

    Businesses and individuals who require me to log into Facebook to see their internet content will simply not have my business or attention.

    How about you?
    Same here. I do have a FB account but I do not link it to anything or accept any of the FB apps they try to get you to accept. Accepting any of the apps on FB over-rides your privacy settings and gives that app/page all of your information.

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    Quote Originally Posted by justmund View Post
    Wow, everyone is hung up about the privacy issues, I've got my settings turned up so there's no problem. The only entity that could possibly grab my personal information (which I chose to share with my friends, or a selection of my friends) is facebook themselves. They already have my information, which I willingly put on their website, so what's the big deal?

    I don't put my home address on there, my credit card details, my tax file number, my drivers licence number etc, it's just a collection of my photos, thoughts and interests. Hmm... kinda like on there, but hang on, ANYONE has access to this, not just my "friends." If there's a privacy issue, then it's not facebooks fault, it's the users for posting the information in the first place, and not controlling it properly.

    What could someone possible do with the information I post on facebook? They can't steal my identity, pillage my bank accounts, kill my dog etc. Where's the risk?

    Who here used Google products? Gmail? You do know once you're logged into gmail, anything you search on is recorded ("collected") in their database? I'm more worried about Google data collection than I am with facebook, but having said that, if you've got nothing to hide, you've got nothing to worry about.

    As one has a family, assets, business, etc...responsibilities come with these....one of those responsibilities is protecting and safeguarding them as much as possible...from those who may not have the same levels and ethical standards that I would hold myself to.....now I'm not talking bubble boy here or full body condom but I'm sure you catch my drift....I want to have greater control of my personal information than others might.


    The big deal is that people don't fully grasp what they are allowing a company to access for nothing. Millions of people post amazingly intimate details of their lives every minute... They don't fully understand privacy issues....and I would venture they have no clue about more sophisticated phishing scams that exist.


    I operate under a pseudonym here(Bob is in fact my real name...but there are a lot of Bob's out there!)...although I've shared some information there are only a handful of people who i have entrusted to know my real name, who I work for, more personal details etc...as far as FB is concerned I believe it's very different.

    i do not have a personal account. down the line maybe I will end up with an account for business due to other business partners and their networks...but I am highly resistant....I have already voiced my displeasure with the idea.

    Privacy is one of if not the most undervalued asset today. I do not intend to give it up for free...nor do I intend to turn over my information to a corporation who promises to keep it protected (unless it is required by law or is necessary from a business functionality standpoint). I also do not have a gmail account....and am always conscious of what I am googling....I mean think about what your cable company could have access to depending on how you spend your time online.

    I personally believe people are not diligent and vigilant enough when it comes to protecting their personal information...it's a pet peeve of mine.

    BTW ...networking is extremely important in my line of business...but not just with anyone....while I recognize the huge possibilities that exist....the risks right now are not worth being exposed to.

    Just a side note...I also will add that a buddy of mine is one of the coaches for rugby at a major university...he said without a Facebook account he couldn't recruit....he also said many of his players couldn't pick up a girl in a bar these days if their lives depended upon it...so much of their existence is wrapped around, up and in social media...this struck me as rather odd...considering the "social" in social media...
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    This isn't about whether or not I have anything to hide. It is about the choices we make and the manipulation of those choices by others for their vested interest instead of mine.
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    Showing your age, guys

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    Quote Originally Posted by DirtyMoonsRJT View Post
    As one has a family, assets, business, etc...responsibilities come with these....one of those responsibilities is protecting and safeguarding them as much as possible...from those who may not have the same levels and ethical standards that I would hold myself to.....

    Privacy is one of if not the most undervalued asset today. I do not intend to give it up for free...
    These are some interesting statements, and you're obviously an intelligent dude, but if you have intelligence then you have the power to control your privacy and risk. Holding everything as close to your chest as possible just gives you sore arms. I prefer to control and share my information, and reap the benefits of tools such as facebook. Want to organise a party or event? There is no more time efficient way of doing than to use facebook, none.

    Which brings me to your point of value of privacy. If I've "sold" my privacy, then I've sold it for time. I can communicate and organise much faster than ever before, and the benefit? I have more time to do other stuff, like post on internet forums...

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