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    Quote Originally Posted by rugerpc View Post
    I really like JustRob's idea, but I'm not getting enough 'f' from the shape of the bird, so I messed with it a little and added Albrecht Smuten's f-hole:



    I admire the creativity in these, but to me, they don't really work for what we're after. JUST MY OPINION and no knock, but these bring back the guitar shape that was previously deemed by some to be too repetitive. Also, there's no taking into account the left-handed players. Why not avoid that all too common slight to the lefties while we can? Plus, it's a busy design, which doesn't make it bad, but there is a lot going on there. And I can just imagine people asking "What's 'ORUM' mean?" Some might get it, some might not. Adding the f-hole to make the word forum a bit clearer just adds to a package that's already too busy IMO.

    Lastly, I think it harkens back too much to another forum that's no longer around. No offense to BAM, but this is exclusively for The Official PRS Forum , not Birds and Moons.

    Again, no criticism intended. I like some aspects of the design(s). I just don't think they work that well for our needs here and now. Similar situation as the version with just the outline and f-hole being a great idea for semi-hollows and hollowbodies, but repeating the body shape could be overkill for the forum TRC.

    One thing I'm sure of: With all of these cool ideas floating around, the final choice is bound to be on a par with PRS guitars themselves!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shawn@PRS View Post
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    Or maybe that "Velvet Elvis" version?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shawn@PRS View Post
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    remembering Paul's reaction to this at the Experience will probably ensure that it never appears on any factory guitars. It would be FORUM exclusive...

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    OK, I'll try a summation:

    A guitar design on a truss rod cover seems a redundancy to some. I can't say I disagree.

    The birds and moon theme are cool - but they kinda point away from the official PRS forum and towards the old BaM forum which this is not. I can't say I disagree.

    The design needs to be ambidextrous. I definitely agree.

    The design needs to be simple and elegant. Again I agree.

    Blackbird makes the case that using the word 'forum' cheapens both the TRC and whatever guitar you put it on. I don't agree. After all the idea is for a 'forum truss rod cover.' He suggests we can accomplish that by making something unique and unavailable elsewhere. Perhaps. But I thought the idea was to make the TRC instantly recognizable and linkable to this forum, not to start a fan guessing game when someone sees it. That is my take, I could be wrong.

    So, back to square one.

    What elements or combination of elements convey the official PRS forum in a simple, elegant design?

    are we back to this?

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    This may not show up (again, I don't have an acct. to store images remotely), but I did some fine tuning this afternoon and ended up with this. So far. (See avatar) I added an 'Est.' date, centered it all. I still see some merit in the outline thing, but like you, I can't say I disagree that it's redundant.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Goldtop View Post
    This may not show up (again, I don't have an acct. to store images remotely), but I did some fine tuning this afternoon and ended up with this. So far. (See avatar) I added an 'Est.' date, centered it all. I still see some merit in the outline thing, but like you, I can't say I disagree that it's redundant.

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    Tell me what it says under forum (too small to read) and I'll draw it out using the one just above.
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    Quote Originally Posted by rugerpc View Post
    Tell me what it says under forum (too small to read) and I'll draw it out using the one just above.
    It says Est. 2012

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    Quote Originally Posted by Goldtop View Post
    I admire the creativity in these, but to me, they don't really work for what we're after. JUST MY OPINION and no knock, but these bring back the guitar shape that was previously deemed by some to be too repetitive. Also, there's no taking into account the left-handed players. Why not avoid that all too common slight to the lefties while we can? Plus, it's a busy design, which doesn't make it bad, but there is a lot going on there. And I can just imagine people asking "What's 'ORUM' mean?" Some might get it, some might not. Adding the f-hole to make the word forum a bit clearer just adds to a package that's already too busy IMO.

    Lastly, I think it harkens back too much to another forum that's no longer around. No offense to BAM, but this is exclusively for The Official PRS Forum , not Birds and Moons.

    Again, no criticism intended. I like some aspects of the design(s). I just don't think they work that well for our needs here and now. Similar situation as the version with just the outline and f-hole being a great idea for semi-hollows and hollowbodies, but repeating the body shape could be overkill for the forum TRC.

    One thing I'm sure of: With all of these cool ideas floating around, the final choice is bound to be on a par with PRS guitars themselves!

    Lloyd
    I understand. My motivation was from a different perspective though. I only peeked in on BAM once in my life before it was gone, and as all of my guitars are more recent, none of them have moons. All birds. This seemed a way to tie in many classic PRSi icons, that seemed to fit like a puzzle right inside the guitar itself. The right vs. left issue can be etched in either fashion, but I don't know what Shawn's intention was; i.e. taking orders, or just pre ordering a bunch.
    That being said, I like a lot of the designs here, and so far the "Paul Bucks" one is the only one I would order, but keep in the case, and not on the guitar.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JustRob View Post
    I understand. My motivation was from a different perspective though. I only peeked in on BAM once in my life before it was gone, and as all of my guitars are more recent, none of them have moons. All birds. This seemed a way to tie in many classic PRSi icons, that seemed to fit like a puzzle right inside the guitar itself. The right vs. left issue can be etched in either fashion, but I don't know what Shawn's intention was; i.e. taking orders, or just pre ordering a bunch.
    That being said, I like a lot of the designs here, and so far the "Paul Bucks" one is the only one I would order, but keep in the case, and not on the guitar.
    Hahaha. That 'Paul Buck' might sell like hotcakes if it were to see the light of day.

    I'd be curious to know if he's aware of us trying to come up with a design for a TRC and what his own suggestion might be. He might be inclined to just leave it up to us to work out?

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    Quote Originally Posted by rugerpc View Post
    Thank you Bill. I'm sorry to be a bother for you. I think it looks good, but I think most of them do, so there you go...

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    Quote Originally Posted by rugerpc View Post
    +1,000,000 !!

    I LOVE this one. I know I am fickle, and I have attention deficit disorder and change my opinions frequently...that being said...I LOVE this one!


    And conversely,

    -1,000,000 to either a "Paul Bucks or a "PRS signature" TRC. Just my taste, or lack-thereof.

    As far as a TRC that does not identify us as the forum? Many of you are familiar with another popular forum's own unique TRC. Anyone can order a group of TRC's that any custom inlay person would produce in any quantity you desire. But, IMO, this project is dedicated to developing a TRC that identifies us as part of the Forum Community.

    Just my opinion. Carry on guys...you've all put so much work into this project...wow!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Goldtop View Post
    Hahaha. That 'Paul Buck' might sell like hotcakes if it were to see the light of day.

    I'd be curious to know if he's aware of us trying to come up with a design for a TRC and what his own suggestion might be. He might be inclined to just leave it up to us to work out?

    LPC
    LOL. The few times I've spoken to Paul, he strikes me as more pragmatic. I imagine his response might be "They really devote this kind of time to this? Don't these guys have anything better to do?"

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    Quote Originally Posted by rugerpc View Post

    I think this would be cool in flamed maple with abalone inlays. I'm guessing there may be a few small bits of figured maple lying around the shop.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Shawn@PRS View Post
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    Just think, if this was on your guitar, you could gaze into Paul's eyes the entire time you're playing

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    You know what may be cool?

    If we could shrink all these designs down and print them out near to scale and place them on an actual guitar (Or copy and paste onto a photo) so we can get a better idea of how they actually look in context.

    At the moment they're all a lot bigger than the real thing and may look completely out of place (Or not) on a real guitar...

    Just thinking out loud...
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