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    Quote Originally Posted by DirtyMoonsRJT View Post
    Jamie with the exception of the lester are they all danocasters?

    Badass!!! btw....you alll ignored my pie recipe!!!
    Only the first one, the "Keef" Tele (with the neck bucker) is a Danocaster. The rest (Strats included) are Cunetto Fenders...

    And the Lester is a Tom Murphy relic. It was the very first '56 he'd done and only the 4th gold-top...


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    Somebody please remind me about the whole recipe concept so I feel less stupid please.
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    Quote Originally Posted by JMintzer View Post
    Only the first one, the "Keef" Tele (with the neck bucker) is a Danocaster. The rest (Strats included) are Cunettos Fenders...

    And the Lester is a Tom Murphy relic. It was the very first '56 he'd done and only the 4th gold-top...


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    It's not for me, but I don't really care why somebody else wants to buy a guitar. If a relic makes you happy, then I say go for it.
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    I don't care for it. Legitimate playing wear, that's one thing, but artificially aging a guitar so you can present the illusion that you've been playing it for years, that's shuckin' and jivin'. I suspect that some of the guys who have relic'ed new guitars haven't been playing very long--they just want to look as if they have. Would you buy a new car with dents and rust spots? Didn't think so...

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    I like them when they relic all on their own...
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    I know there have been a number of DGT Goldtops that were reliced by the factory, but I'm curious to know if either the Private Stock Team or the PTC get many requests for reliced guitars, and whether or not they're willing to do them.

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    Not into it at all. If I am spending my hard earned I want something new and shiny, if I put a ding in it it's down to me using it, although I would be kicking myself. To me personally I find that the relicing thing is almost a lie, saying that either you or your instrument are seasoned road warriors that they in reality might not be. It's the same with artist relics, they are not the instruments actually used to make those classic tracks we all love, just copies without the years of mojo! Nice to hang on the wall and tell people how much you paid for it I guess, but better than a new pristine instrument? No offence intended, each to their own, just my 2c.

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    Waiting for it...

    I'm all for wear and tear you put on the guitar (every mark is a story), but when it's done intentionally it's not my cup o tea. I even have slight issues buying a guitar with previous wear (hence my reluctance on that '88 CU24).

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    Quote Originally Posted by Goldtop View Post
    I know there have been a number of DGT Goldtops that were reliced by the factory, but I'm curious to know if either the Private Stock Team or the PTC get many requests for reliced guitars, and whether or not they're willing to do them.

    Lloyd/Goldtop

    I get a few requests but the PTC is no longer offering relics. It takes up too much of the crews time and ultimately cost too much for the end user.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JMintzer View Post
    I hate it...


    Oh, wait... No I don't...

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    You present a compelling arguement.
    There are several in your collection that I would be very happy to have.

    Quote Originally Posted by DirtyMoonsRJT View Post

    Badass!!! btw....you all ignored my pie recipe!!!
    That is because you committed the sacrilege of using boxed crust. You have to make your own pastry.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 11top View Post
    It's not for me, but I don't really care why somebody else wants to buy a guitar. If a relic makes you happy, then I say go for it.
    I agree. After all my first wife was too much relic for me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by veinbuster View Post

    That is because you committed the sacrilege of using boxed crust. You have to make your own pastry.

    Ha!!!!!!!!!!! Yes...it was a Neely recipe...and I decided to change it up with the fried pies....

    plus my wife would off me if I posted one of her recipe's!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Chitarrista scarso View Post
    I agree. After all my first wife was too much relic for me.
    he he....
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    Most of the relic jobs I've seen simply don't look real. It's as though there are a bunch of standards that relic-ers have that they've agreed must happen, that you actually don't see on guitars that have aged naturally.

    For example, most older Strats don't have the forearm paint wear that you see on nearly every relic. Most nitro finishes don't crack from top to bottom the way that you see them on some guitars. Many relic jobs are particularly laughable, as though the person doing it never saw a real older guitar, only other fakes.

    If someone really wants an old-looking guitar, it's no worse than wanting an "antiqued" piece of furniture. Doesn't bother me.

    But at least do a decent job with it!

    It honestly looks ridiculous on a PRS. But that's just my opinion.
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    My primary objection to 'relic-ing' is ONLY with the idea of what happens when the guitar is transferred or sold to another. If the seller is honest about the history of the 'wear', no problem; if the seller represents the guitar otherwise - big problem.

    But hey - if you spend hundreds (thousands) of dollars for something and then want to make it 'yours' in whatever way pleases you, have at it.

    (starting to get hungry for pie.... )
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    I prefer natural wear and tear over instant-ageing. hacking up a perfectly new guitar to make it look chopped won't make it look aged, more like it's abused or used as a hockey stick! i find scratching off the paint with a blade or similar tools to be pure torment to my eyes, and possibly my ears if it screeches in pain! that said, as for sanding the neck to make it faster, i find it acceptable and i do sand my guitar's neck. it made me realise how much potential that guitar has. for parts ageing like dipping white pickup covers into coffee to make it look ivory/cream, kiwi polish on satin maple neck, all that things i find them to be my personal threshold of guitar ageing and anything further than that is OTT. though i wouldn't try it myself. never.

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    Relics....luv 'em personally.
    Its an aesthetic,to me,nothing more...I have several and they make me smile.I have several non reliced guitars that make me smile also.
    I'm not attempting to fool anyone or have anyone make assumptions about my guitars because they are ...my guitars....for me
    To me the relic option is right up there with gloss or satin...opaque or transparent..red or blue.....I will assume no one will assume my Goldtop DGT came from a gold tree
    Its a finish option or choice...if realism was the only goal there certainly wouldn't be any of the beautifully colored PRS guitars that we all love....as Guthrie Govan puts it they would all be "tree color"
    The relic'ing discussion always seems to be such a polarizing one and I don't really get it....there guitars....luv 'em all

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    Quote Originally Posted by LSchefman View Post
    Most of the relic jobs I've seen simply don't look real. It's as though there are a bunch of standards that relic-ers have that they've agreed must happen, that you actually don't see on guitars that have aged naturally.

    For example, most older Strats don't have the forearm paint wear that you see on nearly every relic. Most nitro finishes don't crack from top to bottom the way that you see them on some guitars. Many relic jobs are particularly laughable, as though the person doing it never saw a real older guitar, only other fakes.
    Arm Wear:



    Arm Wear on a '57 Strat Body:



    Top to bottom checking:





    Vintage Strat w/Arm Wear and Cross Checking:



    If someone really wants an old-looking guitar, it's no worse than wanting an "antiqued" piece of furniture. Doesn't bother me.

    But at least do a decent job with it!
    Agreed!

    It honestly looks ridiculous on a PRS. But that's just my opinion.
    I've only seen one or two, and they were decent, but it does look out of place, since it's so uncommon...


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    Quote Originally Posted by Shawn@PRS View Post
    I get a few requests but the PTC is no longer offering relics. It takes up too much of the crews time and ultimately cost too much for the end user.
    Thank you Shawn. I knew you would have the scoop.

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