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    Quote Originally Posted by Boogie View Post
    If my other guitarist didn't play a Marshall, I would have gone with the HXDA. The SD gave me a more unique separation in my band setting.
    That was an important consideration, definitely. And the SD is also killer.
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    Good info here. I've been reading everything I can about PRS amps. The plunge is coming.

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    This morning I tracked down a HXDA for a test run. Finally!! Holy smokes! This thing is unreal!

    I used my DGT and played through a Mesa 1x12 Lonestar (?) Cab with a Black Shadow in it. I was stunned. Never have I played something like this before! I must confess, I haven't played through many high end amps... I've had a few mid range amps over the years but nothing that touches this thing.

    I'm pretty sure this will be the amp that I purchase. It just has the tones that I'm looking for. That being said, I haven't had a chance to check out the 2 Channel Custom yet.

    A question for you wise forum gurus: How do you think the Vintage Celestions in the PRS Cabs will differ from the Black Shadow I tried with this head?

    This amp is just nuts. It'll take a bit to get used to it. Even though there aren't that many knobs on it, they are extremely sensitive and with the HX/DA switches you have infinite possibilities. In my opinion it sounded good at low volumes as well. Of course when you push it, the notes just blossom that little extra. Plain gorgeous!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kine View Post
    This morning I tracked down a HXDA for a test run. Finally!! Holy smokes! This thing is unreal!

    I used my DGT and played through a Mesa 1x12 Lonestar (?) Cab with a Black Shadow in it. I was stunned. Never have I played something like this before! I must confess, I haven't played through many high end amps... I've had a few mid range amps over the years but nothing that touches this thing.

    I'm pretty sure this will be the amp that I purchase. It just has the tones that I'm looking for. That being said, I haven't had a chance to check out the 2 Channel Custom yet.

    A question for you wise forum gurus: How do you think the Vintage Celestions in the PRS Cabs will differ from the Black Shadow I tried with this head?

    This amp is just nuts. It'll take a bit to get used to it. Even though there aren't that many knobs on it, they are extremely sensitive and with the HX/DA switches you have infinite possibilities. In my opinion it sounded good at low volumes as well. Of course when you push it, the notes just blossom that little extra. Plain gorgeous!
    I've been really loving my amp -- glad to know I'm not alone and that others dig it!

    As to the speaker, the Black Shadow 90 is a made-for-Mesa Celestion CL80, with a vented dust cap. It's a great speaker for a 112 cab, and it's just a little darker than a Vintage 30, which is a brighter speaker.

    Both speakers sound great with the HX/DA. IMHO the V-30s need a little bit of a break-in period beyond what the 90 needs because of their brighter vibe.

    If you like the head with the 90, you'll also like it with the V-30s. Wait until you get to play it enough to really tailor it to your tastes.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kine View Post
    How do you think the Vintage Celestions in the PRS Cabs will differ from the Black Shadow...
    Yeah, what Les said. In my experience, the PRS cabs with the V30 varied heavily from my experience with Boogie cabs with V30s. And my pair of Boogie 2x12s were loaded with the C90s for the longest time, so I'm really familiar with that speaker, too. The PRS 2x12 pine is darker but accentuates the bass of the Super Dallas perfectly. And like you said, brings that awesome note bloom. Otherwise, it's very balanced and uncharacteristic of the typical V30 cab on the market designed for metal players. I play predominantly classic rock right now and it fits perfectly.

    My recommendation would be not to judge a cab by the speaker. The maker paired the cab with the speakers with a particular voice in mind. Otherwise, I never would have considered the PRS cab.
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    Thanks for the feedback gentlemen! I just can't get that tone out of my head!

    Since I'm rather inexperienced at riding my volume pots to control the amp, I'm curious if a volume pedal may do the same trick? Or would the response be different?
    Last edited by Kine; 05-13-2013 at 09:25 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kine View Post
    Thanks for the feedback gentlemen! I just can't get that tone out of my head!

    Since I'm rather inexperienced at riding my volume pots to control the amp, I'm curious if a volume pedal may do the same trick? Or would the response be different?
    I don't really ride the volume knob, I just make adjustments here and there. No special technique involved at all.

    With a volume pedal, you're adding another pot to load the pickups and affect the tone, so if you use one, put it after a buffer.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kine View Post
    Since I'm rather inexperienced at riding my volume pots to control the amp, I'm curious if a volume pedal may do the same trick? Or would the response be different?

    A volume pedal alters the tone of the guitar because it alters the Q of the circuit. There is no substitute for learning how to use the volume control on the one's guitar. Controlling grit and compression via the volume control on your guitar will become second nature in time.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LSchefman View Post
    I don't really ride the volume knob, I just make adjustments here and there. No special technique involved at all.

    With a volume pedal, you're adding another pot to load the pickups and affect the tone, so if you use one, put it after a buffer.
    Understood, thanks for that!

    Quote Originally Posted by Em7 View Post
    A volume pedal alters the tone of the guitar because it alters the Q of the circuit. There is no substitute for learning how to use the volume control on the one's guitar. Controlling grit and compression via the volume control on your guitar will become second nature in time.
    I figured as much but thought I'd ask. Appreciate the response.

    Hoping to try the 2 channel custom this weekend!

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    Quote Originally Posted by LSchefman View Post
    I don't really ride the volume knob, I just make adjustments here and there. No special technique involved at all.

    With a volume pedal, you're adding another pot to load the pickups and affect the tone, so if you use one, put it after a buffer.
    Kine - This is just a matter of taking some time to try it and getting used to it. I switched recently to the HX/DA head and I just love it... After reading EVERY post I could find on it, I tried all of the ideas I got from Les and they just work! I have the PRS 2x12 Stealth cab and it just sounds amazing with the HX/DA... Although it might work a little better with different guitars depending on the tone you are looking for... Give it a try, you won't be sorry!
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    After watching all of the new videos on the PRS YouTube channel I want a Sweet 16. Can't...resist.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sekunda View Post
    Kine - This is just a matter of taking some time to try it and getting used to it. I switched recently to the HX/DA head and I just love it... After reading EVERY post I could find on it, I tried all of the ideas I got from Les and they just work! I have the PRS 2x12 Stealth cab and it just sounds amazing with the HX/DA... Although it might work a little better with different guitars depending on the tone you are looking for... Give it a try, you won't be sorry!
    Considering I'm not gigging at the moment, I'm really thinking about the HX/DA! When I played it the tones were just amazing. I'm planning on doing a bit of recording coming up and tone is what I'm looking for and the HX/DA has that. I'm not too bothered about dialing in the volume and what better time to learn!?


    Quote Originally Posted by jfb View Post
    After watching all of the new videos on the PRS YouTube channel I want a Sweet 16. Can't...resist.
    I noticed they have the 16"+" also which looks interesting but I read it's 40W!! Not sure if that's accurate or not...

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    Finally had a chance to play a 2 Channel Custom yesterday! It was played through the PRS 2x12 Stealth Cab using a DGT. Wow, seriously cool amp! Great clean channel imo. Lots of sparkle and definition. The gain channel is beautiful as well. Lots of definition here as well and a tight controlled sound. I really enjoyed all the different options that it offers including a very musical reverb as well as the foot pedal to engage a nice boost.

    The Stealth Cab sounded great imo! Hard to compare it since I didn't move the amp to a different cab. I will say that it seemed to control the lows nicely and there was no boominess or unnecessary rumble. Chords rang nicely and lead lines went from butter to brittle. I will say that slight adjustments on the amp and guitar made a huge difference in the tones produced. Gotta appreciate that!

    In comparison to the HXDA, the main defining characteristic I noticed was that the Custom wasn't as harmonically rich to my ears. It just seems that the HXDA possibly has just that bit more of overtones/harmonics going on. That's not to say that the Custom is inferior in any way! It really is a very beautiful sounding amp. These little criticisms are extremely minute. It could be just that I identify with the sound of the HXDA more for what I'm trying to accomplish. I certainly would be happy to own the Custom as well and may actually prefer it in a gigging type of situation due to the flexibility it offers.

    Thanks everyone for all the information in this thread. I hope to have a new amp soon!
    Last edited by Kine; 05-20-2013 at 09:46 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kine View Post
    Finally had a chance to play a 2 Channel Custom yesterday! It was played through the PRS 2x12 Stealth Cab using a DGT. Wow, seriously cool amp! Great clean channel imo. Lots of sparkle and definition. The gain channel is beautiful as well. Lots of definition here as well and a tight controlled sound. I really enjoyed all the different options that it offers including a very musical reverb as well as the foot pedal to engage a nice boost.

    The Stealth Cab sounded great imo! Hard to compare it since I didn't move the amp to a different cab. I will say that it seemed to control the lows nicely and there was no boominess or unnecessary rumble. Chords rang nicely and lead lines went from butter to brittle. I will say that slight adjustments on the amp and guitar made a huge difference in the tones produced. Gotta appreciate that!

    In comparison to the HXDA, the main defining characteristic I noticed was that the Custom wasn't as harmonically rich to my ears. It just seems that the HXDA possibly has just that bit more of overtones/harmonics going on. That's not to say that the Custom is inferior in any way! It really is a very beautiful sounding amp. These little criticisms are extremely minute. It could be just that I identify with the sound of the HXDA more for what I'm trying to accomplish. I certainly would be happy to own the Custom as well and may actually prefer it in a gigging type of situation due to the flexibility it offers.

    Thanks everyone for all the information in this thread. I hope to have a new amp soon!
    You've encapsulated how I feel about the HX/DA. It's a special amp for the tones I seem to prefer.

    There are other terrific amps in the PRS lineup, and plenty of great amps by other makers, but this one just has a certain thing going that makes me fall in love every time I turn it on.

    I really would feel better if I had a backup.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jfb View Post
    After watching all of the new videos on the PRS YouTube channel I want a Sweet 16. Can't...resist.
    I LOVE MY SW16. I play it every day, and use it for both bands. It's AWESOME. For a lower-wattage amp on which you can dime the Master to make the power tubes work for you, the SW16 is a wonderful beast. Do yourself a favor and getcha one.
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    Quote Originally Posted by martysnarf View Post
    I LOVE MY SW16. I play it every day, and use it for both bands. It's AWESOME. For a lower-wattage amp on which you can dime the Master to make the power tubes work for you, the SW16 is a wonderful beast. Do yourself a favor and getcha one.
    I have plans to try one out after my next guitar comes in.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jfb View Post
    I have plans to try one out after my next guitar comes in.
    Whoa, didn't ya jus get one? What's next?

    Oh and do let me know how you like the 16 please! Looks like a great grab n go! Any ideas how much it weighs in a combo?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kine View Post
    Whoa, didn't ya jus get one? What's next?

    Oh and do let me know how you like the 16 please! Looks like a great grab n go! Any ideas how much it weighs in a combo?
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    Quote Originally Posted by jfb View Post

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    Well, I finally pulled the trigger!! Last week I got a new HXDA with a matching 2x12 Stealth Cab!

    I posted the new thread here:
    http://prsguitars.com/forum/showthre...12-Stealth-Cab

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