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    What are they thinking?

    Went to my stepsons graduation yesterday. There was a guy on bib overalls, a guy in old sweat pants and a guy in very dirty jeans with one knee ripped open. What makes this ok?

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    What else would you expect guys from the MyLesPaul forum to be wearing? Not everybody is a classy dresser like we are around here.

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    Quote Originally Posted by gush View Post
    Went to my stepsons graduation yesterday. There was a guy on bib overalls, a guy in old sweat pants and a guy in very dirty jeans with one knee ripped open. What makes this ok?
    None of us really know what the next person is dealing with. Maybe this was the best that they could afford. Maybe they flew in and their luggage was lost. Maybe they had to work and only got off just in time to make it to the event. Maybe they'd had an emergency come up and hadn't had time to go change before the ceremonies.

    With all due respect, whether or not you or anyone else thought the manner of dress of another attendee was 'ok' is largely irrelevant (except to you of course). The day and the occasion was supposed to be about The Graduation ie:the achievements of the students, correct?

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    I was around a bunch of overprivileged know it alls who treated everyone around them like crap...and I had my fill of it.
    I know what you mean. I've spent far too much time with folks like that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DirtyMoonsRJT View Post
    Look...with all due respect...respect in general has gone in the toilet.



    I had first hand experience with people who should have known better all weekend...and their wallets weren't hurting....nor did they lose their luggage.


    ....oh and where I was...there was a dining room dress code...maybe some may see this as outdated...but it was the policy of the facility.

    Lloyd...don't take this the wrong way...I was around a bunch of overprivileged know it alls who treated everyone around them like crap...and I had my fill of it.
    No sweat here. I see a LOT less in the way of general respect and good manners in most areas these days. People in stores, in drive thru windows, in doctors offices... If you ask those who deal with the public as part of their work, they have similar stories to tell. It's slowly getting worse.

    Whenever subjects like this one come up, I usually end up feeling old. Talking about 'the good old days', 'I remember when etc., etc.'... But there's a truth to it. Poor/boorish behaviour in too many people is an unfortunate sign of the times, and it makes me appreciate it even more when I encounter someone who is kind and polite.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DirtyMoonsRJT View Post
    Les...it's pretty much why I responded to your thread in the same manner...I just think people should treat their fellow persons with a bit more respect, kindness, and decency.


    apparently that's a lot to ask these days.
    I don't think you should have to ask.
    ...but I agree that all are in short supply
    ...and the people you had to ask probably wouldn't know what you meant.

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    I'm surrounded by college age students daily (I'm a Prof.) and I mostly think the 'problem' you witnessed is pretty common with that age group. The good news is that they seem to grow out of it, eventually. I spend most of my time teaching them how to act like an adult and take responsibility for their own lives. Would be nice if their parents played their part as well. It's certainly not all of them but enough to make you notice.
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    Dirty jeans with holes in them don't bug me but I draw a line with the @#$%^ smurf hat.

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    I want to be clear on this. If sweat pants are you can afford thats fine. When you choose a 300.00 tatoo over a nice outfit thats not so fine. I am not a snob i would like to see a little respect.

    I would rather buy xmas gifts for a family in need than for my own family. Kindness and respect are in short supply in this country.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ]-[ @ n $ 0 |v| a T ! View Post
    Dirty jeans with holes in them don't bug me but I draw a line with the @#$%^ smurf hat.
    Yeah, we all know only complete tossers wear those, right...?


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    Hans, you're going to love this little bit of history about smurf hats.

    Turns out, "The Phrygian cap is a soft conical cap with the top pulled forward, associated in antiquity with the inhabitants of Phrygia, a region of central Anatolia. In the western provinces of the Roman Empire it came to signify freedom and the pursuit of liberty, perhaps through a confusion with the pileus, the felt cap of manumitted (emancipated) slaves of ancient Rome. Accordingly, the Phrygian cap is sometimes called a liberty cap; in artistic representations it signifies freedom and the pursuit of liberty." Wikipedia

    It goes back a long time as such a symbol, here's an ancient Roman piece:



    An interesting item is that it was an American Revolutionary icon, and is a symbol of the United States Senate, incoporated into its Great Seal:


    It was also a symbol of democracy in the French Revolution.

    Liberty, Freedom, Democracy...not so bad.
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    I often wear my smurf hat while rockin' out in the phrygian mode.



    I went looking for a pair of sweatpants a few years ago, specifically Chicago Bears sweatpants... I was gonna be a jerk about it and wear them in a satirical fashion like the true snob I am, but I couldn't find any! Closest I came were "Zubas".. perhaps it's just a new underground fashion trend that we are not yet aware of.

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    Ok... I was wrong. What I'm talking about is not a smurf hat. The smurf hat pitches forward. The one in the photo I attached bags off the rear of the head and is all deflated - like the reservoir tip of a condom. As such, I shall refer to the offending garment, hence forth, as the Jimmy Hat.

    if the Phrygian cap (with top firm and pitched forward) is a symbol for liberty and freedom, the Jimmy Hat (reservoir tip falling limp on the back of the head) is a symbol for willful assimilation and (if worn in the summer) poor circulation.
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    I hear you. What the world needs is a little more respect for our fellow humans, not that clothes are neccessarily a measure of respect or disrespect, but dressing appropriately is a sign of respect. I believe in being comfortable, but if the only thing you're comfortable in is torn jeans and a T-shirt, you'd better be working in your yard! I see it with stagewear all the time--big-name acts on the Grand Ole Opry routinely come onstage looking like they just crawled out from under the bus. Have a little respect for the gig--that's the mother church of country music!
    When I started playing in the early '60's, bands wore matching suits. These days you don't have to match, but try to at least dress better than the audience!

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    Well, then! History is stranger than fiction (or maybe all fiction is really just history...).

    Quote Originally Posted by LSchefman View Post
    Hans, you're going to love this little bit of history about smurf hats.

    It goes back a long time as such a symbol, here's an ancient Roman piece:




    It was also a symbol of democracy in the French Revolution.
    Good to know the smurf hat has a noble history. Still, I think it's goofy-lookin' in antiquity, goofy-lookin' now.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sergiodeblanc View Post
    I often wear my smurf hat while rockin' out in the phrygian mode.
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    I can see that most of us are of the same mind here. And I don't mean to hijack this from the OP, but since the subject of those goofy knit caps has already been introduced... I just don't get it.

    I've never been into fashion. To me, if it's clean, and fits fairly well, then all is good. BUT, the pants down around the knees, a half acre of ugly boxer shorts exposed OVER the belt, those goofy hats (either the baseball caps with the bills at some angle other than straight ahead OR those knitted pseudo ski things)... What makes a dude think he looks cool wearing a mini laundry bag on his head? Is it that difficult to wash and comb your hair? Is your head that cold?

    Oh, and I'm with jfine who talked about what so many of the bands wear today at The Opry. (But the problem is everywhere, really.) If I buy a ticket, I don't want to see you show up onstage in the same filthy t-shirt with the BBQ sauce stain that you've had on since Tupelo. Clean up, idiot! You're supposed to be in show business! If you don't want to make a little effort for me and the rest of the audience, then maybe we shouldn't make any effort for you! If I want to see a pile of dirty laundry, then I'll look in the hamper.

    You say 'it's supposed to be about the music'? Fine. Then you stay home, and we'll stay home, and you can write more dittys about 'how hard life on the road can be'. We'll play the record, do the laundry, it'll be just the same as if we saw you live, and we'll keep our money in our pockets.

    Buncha slouchy creeps...

    WHERE'S MY BLANKET? IT'S COLD IN HERE!

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    I finally understand how my dad felt about me in the glory-days of hair metal.

    Now someone get that skinny-jeans-wearing Gnome off my lawn.

    And This guy too.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ]-[ @ n $ 0 |v| a T ! View Post
    Now someone get that skinny-jeans-wearing Gnome off my lawn.
    I think you should give my son sartorial advice, because he has such a difficult time meeting women in those skinny jeans he wears...

    (Had to delete the pic. My wife said, "Jamie will probably not appreciate your posting this.")

    Dang!
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    I can't see the pic from work so I don't know which wise-ass remark to apply. One thing is certain, I already copped to the fact that I've become my father.

    I'll post up my 80's glam photo when I get home. It's laughable. My dad hated it -- especially my hair -- but he couldn't argue with the fact that I always had a smokin' hot girlfriend.

    What can I say, it seemed like a good idea at the time.
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