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    International vs US Brazillian fingerboards

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    What is the difference between the International Brazilian boards and the US only boards?
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    Quote Originally Posted by zebraprs View Post
    Please forgive me if this was already done here.

    What is the difference between the International Brazilian boards and the US only boards?
    I would assume that the international pieces include CITES documents where as the US only do not and are not approved to travel through customs? Again - I have no idea, just a guess.
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    That's my guess too, Mike.
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    Seems like a good place to ask this question....................... but, maybe it's a secret
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    Quote Originally Posted by themike View Post
    I would assume that the international pieces include CITES documents where as the US only do not and are not approved to travel through customs?
    correct you are

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shawn@PRS View Post
    correct you are


    Like I said, This is a good place to ask that question. One of the many reasons we come here.








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    First post guys so go easy!

    If the international pieces included the relevant CITES documentation, then why do they USA Only pieces not include the documentation? Are they not CITES compliant?

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    does anybody know? I'm surely tempted to buy but don't want to lose a new guitar at customs!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by ntto View Post
    First post guys so go easy!

    If the international pieces included the relevant CITES documentation, then why do they USA Only pieces not include the documentation? Are they not CITES compliant?
    My guess is that guitars branded "USA Only" have Brazilian rosewood that was aquired legally, but the paperwork may not be enough to qualify for proper CITES documentation while the international ones contained everything needed to aquire the CITES documents. I wouldn't suggest ordering anything outside of the specified region so if you're not in the US, don't order a USA Only version - you're only asking for grief if it gets nabbed as they are not intended to cross any international boarders.
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    Quote Originally Posted by markie View Post
    Like I said, This is a good place to ask that question. One of the many reasons we come here.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ntto View Post
    does anybody know? I'm surely tempted to buy but don't want to lose a new guitar at customs!!
    I don't see the dilemma. You said that you're in the UK. Buy one of the international Brazilians.
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    I've seen one that I like which is USA only. Was just asking the question so I understand the reasoning behind it considering PRS say all brazilian conforms to CITES

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    Quote Originally Posted by ntto View Post
    I've seen one that I like which is USA only.
    There's your answer.

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    Was just asking the question so I understand the reasoning behind it...
    I'm not sure PRS - or any other manufacturer working with protected resources - is going to openly comment on their reasoning; which is almost certainly based on legal interpretation.

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    ...considering PRS say all brazilian conforms to CITES.
    I think what you should be focused on is the export paperwork, not the compliance. The guitar you want has been identified as USA only. Unless you (and the dealer) want to take the risk, which I would not recommend, you're much better off finding one that is export ready. There are several dealers with a fantastic selection of Brazilian equipped guitars ready for the international market. If they are reading this thread then they might consider sending you a PM.
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    On a related note, why can international dealers sell back INTO the U.S., but U.S. dealers can't sell to customers outside the U.S.?
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    Quote Originally Posted by iahawk36 View Post
    On a related note, why can international dealers sell back INTO the U.S., but U.S. dealers can't sell to customers outside the U.S.?
    Becuase "International" models possess CITES documents, which they would need to cross our (or any) borders. The "US only" versions do not, and can't leave the country or cross any borders.
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    [QUOTE=']-[ @ n $ 0 |v| a T ! ;90476']There's your answer.

    is it not unreasonable to ask the question why (If only to educate myself) even if the answer is the legal interpretation? PRS website clearly states all wood is CITES compliant so why the distinction?

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