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Thread: Phase II tuners: Why are the 513 /Modern Eagle ones different?

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    Senior Member Jazzedout's Avatar
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    Phase II tuners: Why are the 513 /Modern Eagle ones different?

    The Phase II tuners on a Custom/CE etc have one screw in the back, at the lower part of the tuner.
    The Phase II tuners on the 513, Modern Eagle I and II have two screws in the back, one at the upper and one at the lower part of the tuner that are off-center with each other (not like PhaseIII tuners that the screws are in-line)

    Any idea why is that?
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    Because they are out of phase with one another?



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    IIRC the regular phase 2s are tightened down like a bolt on the front of the headstock to tighten the tuner into place, and the single set screw just keeps it from rotating (more modern style). On the ME/513 Phase 2s, they have a grommet pressed into place on the front of the headstock like old Fender or Kluson tuners, and the two screws on the back both hold the rest of the tuner in and keep it from rotating. I do not know why they would make them both ways, maybe the cosmetics of not having a six sided bolt on each tuner on the headstock face on higher end models?
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