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    Drop D - PRS Trem Tips Needed

    Does anyone have tips on how to quickly go to drop D tuning on a floating PRS trem?

    I play in a band that covers lots of songs in different tunings. Anywhere from Standard to drop C. I end up having to bring 3-4 guitars when I play. I'm looking for any tips on how to go save time from having to retune each string when I go to drop D from Standard due to the change in string tension.

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    Quote Originally Posted by geese_com View Post
    Does anyone have tips on how to quickly go to drop D tuning on a floating PRS trem?

    I play in a band that covers lots of songs in different tunings. Anywhere from Standard to drop C. I end up having to bring 3-4 guitars when I play. I'm looking for any tips on how to go save time from having to retune each string when I go to drop D from Standard due to the change in string tension.

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    Perfect solution here. Easy to install, reversible.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Blackbird View Post
    Perfect solution here. Easy to install, reversible.
    http://www.tremol-no.com/
    +1 this is what I have and I switch back and forth all the time on stage.
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    if you got money to throw around, contact these guys to see if they can make one for a prs headstock!!!
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    Geese...don't know what to say...With a PRS in a live setting I'm normally in standard or tuned down 1/2 step...then the only other tuning I will use is Drop D...I just make it work...turn the one tuner button and go...I may use a polytune to check to make sure I'm close...some other types of guitars I will have issues similar to what you are talking about but not enough on my PRS to justify switching guitars for anything other than breaking a string...if I feel some notes are slightly off mid song I will compensate with either finger vibrato or some type of action with the trem bar or resting my hand on the bridge.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Blackbird View Post
    Perfect solution here. Easy to install, reversible.
    http://www.tremol-no.com/
    Quote Originally Posted by John Beef View Post
    +1 this is what I have and I switch back and forth all the time on stage.
    Yeah, I have a tremol-no on my other guitars. Since this is my Private Stock we are talking about I didn't really want to put a Tremol-No on it because I remember how much of a pain it was install. Hence, why I am looking for other options. Maybe I can find something to put under the bridge when drop tuning for the 1-2 songs I need.

    Quote Originally Posted by Dirty Bob View Post
    Geese...don't know what to say...With a PRS in a live setting I'm normally in standard or tuned down 1/2 step...then the only other tuning I will use is Drop D...I just make it work...turn the one tuner button and go...I may use a polytune to check to make sure I'm close...some other types of guitars I will have issues similar to what you are talking about but not enough on my PRS to justify switching guitars for anything other than breaking a string...if I feel some notes are slightly off mid song I will compensate with either finger vibrato or some type of action with the trem bar or resting my hand on the bridge.
    To be honest, I don't even think an audience in a live setting will be able to tell that the guitar isn't in perfect tune. It just takes me anywhere from 20 seconds to a minute to retune when I drop D.

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    Quote Originally Posted by markie View Post
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    I wish. I just bought another amp. So probably no NGDs for me any time soon.

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    Quote Originally Posted by geese_com View Post
    I wish. I just bought another amp. So probably no NGDs for me any time soon.
    Yeah, but you've got that bangin' new 245 that probably loves drop D.

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    Someday I'll get around to prototyping my idea for a tremolo that can be easily drop tuned. Until then I have a cheesy work around that might work for you. I'll post a pic when I get home.

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    I can get away with drop d if im the only guitar player but if my singer is playing i can hear how out of tune we are. Thats why i bring a non trem guitar along. Would be nice to do it all with one guitar.

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    Have Len or Skitch @ the PTC set it up and you'll have no problems.....My DGT does them all on the fly on stage without a problem!
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    I dont understand how thats possible. Dropping pitch of one string will cause remaining strings to change in pitch slightly if trem is floating.

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    Quote Originally Posted by gush View Post
    I dont understand how thats possible. Dropping pitch of one string will cause remaining strings to change in pitch slightly if trem is floating.
    Maybe it's blocked to dive only. That solves any drop tuning issues. That's kind of what I have done.

    A small piece of rubber us double-sided taped to the trem block. The rubber will compress if forced by pulling up, but it limits the movement of the trem when drop tuning. It's not perfect, but it keeps it close and does not require any permanent modification to the guitar.
    I also wouldn't recommend any forceful or abrupt pull ups with this. I'd fear that once the force the rubber can absorb is exceeded, the force will affect the six bridge screws.



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    Quote Originally Posted by JustRob View Post
    Maybe it's blocked to dive only. That solves any drop tuning issues. That's kind of what I have done.

    A small piece of rubber us double-sided taped to the trem block. The rubber will compress if forced by pulling up, but it limits the movement of the trem when drop tuning. It's not perfect, but it keeps it close and does not require any permanent modification to the guitar.
    I also wouldn't recommend any forceful or abrupt pull ups with this. I'd fear that once the force the rubber can absorb is exceeded, the force will affect the six bridge screws.



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    Quote Originally Posted by Bill Downing View Post
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    Quote Originally Posted by markie View Post
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    [QUOTE=Jet Whitey;118173]Have Len or Skitch @ the PTC set it up and you'll have no problems.....My DGT does them all on the fly on stage without a problem![/QUOT

    I really want the trem to float. Its really hard to get a good vibrato with it blocked in any way. It is a good idea though if you dont want trem to float.

    Im just picky that way.

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    Quote Originally Posted by gush View Post
    I can get away with drop d if im the only guitar player but if my singer is playing i can hear how out of tune we are. Thats why i bring a non trem guitar along. Would be nice to do it all with one guitar.
    That's the problem. We are two guitar band, so I need to be pretty close in tune.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JustRob View Post
    Maybe it's blocked to dive only. That solves any drop tuning issues. That's kind of what I have done.

    A small piece of rubber us double-sided taped to the trem block. The rubber will compress if forced by pulling up, but it limits the movement of the trem when drop tuning. It's not perfect, but it keeps it close and does not require any permanent modification to the guitar.
    I also wouldn't recommend any forceful or abrupt pull ups with this. I'd fear that once the force the rubber can absorb is exceeded, the force will affect the six bridge screws.



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    Excellent! This just might work in a pinch.

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