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    Just an FYI if you are getting close to the ordering phase, Elderly has a couple used Miras and Singlecut Hollowbody Standards right now...

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    I am a bit bewildered. I tried the Mira 2 - there was a white and tobacco one (I should have played the tobacco to see if it made a difference). I truly welcome ANY help as this may be more 'me,' but I can't be certain. The sound options on the guitar were fantastic (granted, I didn't want to play w the Dean Markley or PRS amps all day there. Those were the only 2 options), but I liked the single coil sounds and how you could roll off tone and all that so well. The problem (and this is where I welcome your experience here, folks): The "11/16" width !nut (I guess) vs something more narrow (5/8?) was difficult for me to "land all notes in chords" eg. 8th fret: Bd7 C#dim7 Bd7/D. (uh, I had to slow it down to get my fingers on the strings! I picked up a G + L usa asat and it was much easier. That could be because I've been playing a Taylor Acoustic for past 6 mos (I haven't played an electric in YEARS). Is it 'fair' to compare this neck and could it be I WOULD be ok on this and its just my inexperienced reference point?? I liked the less tension, but I wasn't clean because of that, too. I can't tell if its that I LEAN toward fender type, NARROW necks or looong hiatus w no other experience in necks to draw from (except the Taylor). Is this neck to wide? too flat? I did notice the high E rolled off fretboard a few times (I played this for about 45 min). I loved the wt the balance sitting was good rolls a bit to Right side due to shape)? If I didn't know better I would say theG+L tele was more my speed but not that many sounds (not all that tele like, but I didn't have more time to spend there) LASTLY, the medium jumbo frets aren't so kind to me either NOT awful, but again, felt limiing - skinny fingers here, not meaty at all. Again, sorry for rambling, but your thoughts are really all have other than my own narrowed horizon. Thanks much!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Doreen View Post
    ... The "11/16" width !nut (I guess) vs something more narrow (5/8?) was difficult for me to "land all notes in chords" eg. 8th fret: Bd7 C#dim7 Bd7/D. (uh, I had to slow it down to get my fingers on the strings! I picked up a G + L usa asat and it was much easier. That could be because I've been playing a Taylor Acoustic for past 6 mos (I haven't played an electric in YEARS). Is it 'fair' to compare this neck and could it be I WOULD be ok on this and its just my inexperienced reference point??...
    My experience with several different guitars with differing neck sizes is that it takes a little while of playing to switch from one to the other. I miss a lot of notes until my hands get used to it. Usually going from wider to narrower. My PRS Paul Allender has the best neck feel of all the guitars but for sound I prefer the Les Paul so I play the LP a bit more often. The LP has a larger neck feel so when I switch to the PRS of a Strat I sounds pretty awful for a while.

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    Ok one last question about this Mira and I will put all reading these out their misery. Now, I may be escorted right out of the PRS forum for this one, but I'm willing to take the risk: Has anyone ever had the back of the neck sanded to get that cruddy gloss paint off if it (Of course, I know the resale is down the tubes. Can you tell I came from a "Fender world" in my last life yet)? ;-)

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    I've personally never sanded a neck down. I'm assuming you mean because it's sticky. I don't find the necks sticky. If they are then just play it for a while, the stickiness will go away. Gibsons had that same problem but I find you don't hear it much with prs.
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    You could also try some polish on the back of the neck as well. I used to just spray mine with Pledge.

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    Doreen - just a few quick things, hopefully not to add to any confusion or indecisiveness:

    1) I have a Taylor 314CE which I play infrequently so when I switch to that, I feel my fingers are all scrunched together - it does take some getting used to, guess that comes with the territory.
    2) If you want to stick with a 22-fret guitar, you could look for a used Custom 22 (generally available with a Wide Thin neck) or a CE 22 (bolt-on - also available with a Wide Thin neck until 2001 or so). That won't do anything to address the width, but maybe the thinner feel would help?
    3) "Core" Miras (24-fret) were available with a Wide Thin profile also
    4) The CE bolt-ons (there are both CE24s and CE22s) have a more "natural" feel...or maybe a rosewood neck for more au naturel?

    Although the mega-guitar-chains can be evil, they generally have a pretty liberal return policy - sometimes you can return one to your "local" store even if you didn't buy one there. There are alot of good folks that work at those chains, and if you get a hold of a helpful one, you can minimize your risk up-front on a used instrument, and pretty much have a 30-day in-home test drive of the instrument. I haven't abused the chain policies, but I certainly have taken advantage of it, and the best way to test drive is on your home turf. SO I guess what I am saying is that it would be pretty easy, and minimally risky, to find used pieces online and try one or two out at home.

    Sounds like you really WANT to love the S2 Mira, but it just may not be the right guitar for you at the end of the day if it just doesn't feel right.
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    New to the forum, and I'm also guessing you are worried the neck will be sticky. I recently bought an S2 Mira and on mine at least the finish is very slick and smooth feeling. I've hit it with some PRS guitar polish a couple of times and it couldn't be nicer. I too come from a mostly Fender background and in all honesty the neck on my Mira is probably the best feeling, quickest playing I have ever had, I just think it takes a little time with any new guitar to get 100% comfortable. After a week of playing it my Mira became my favorite guitar by far.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Doreen View Post
    Ok one last question about this Mira and I will put all reading these out their misery. Now, I may be escorted right out of the PRS forum for this one, but I'm willing to take the risk: Has anyone ever had the back of the neck sanded to get that cruddy gloss paint off if it (Of course, I know the resale is down the tubes. Can you tell I came from a "Fender world" in my last life yet)? ;-)
    It's obvious that this is the wrong guitar for you.

    First, you've already posted that the neck's spec doesn't feel right to your hand. Second, you don't care for the finish on the neck (though PRS has models with a satin finished neck that feels like bare wood, the Pattern Regular neck on the S2 Mira is probably their narrowest width, someone correct me if I'm wrong). Third, the string tension isn't comfortable for you.

    Just put different pickups on your Fender! You'll have the neck you like, and be done with it.

    To buy a new guitar, and have the wrong neck feel for your hands, the wrong string tension feel for your fingers, and a neck that has to be sanded down to feel good for you is absolutely crazy, in my opinion.
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    actually the Taylors have a 1 3/4 nut width on USA Solid wood guitars and the laminates 200 series on down have a 1 11/16 which are all wider than the PRS pattern reg neck on the S2. now the PRS has a 10" radius. the Taylor acoustic a much flatter 15" and usually Tele`s have 9" but a narrow feel which I get way too crammed up on. I have long skinny fingers. I prefer the wide fat or pattern necks but can play the Patter reg just fine. the width difference Paul said was about that of an A string.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Doreen View Post
    Ok one last question about this Mira and I will put all reading these out their misery. Now, I may be escorted right out of the PRS forum for this one, but I'm willing to take the risk: Has anyone ever had the back of the neck sanded to get that cruddy gloss paint off if it (Of course, I know the resale is down the tubes. Can you tell I came from a "Fender world" in my last life yet)? ;-)
    There's a product called Micro Mesh, (you can get it at StewMac) that'll take down the gloss and stickiness. It'll make it satin smooth. Best thing is, if you want, you and you the finer grit to polish it right back to glossy, if you want.

    Here's what it looks like sanded smooth…

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    Have you considered the new Zach Myers SE Semi Hollow?
    It has a satin finish neck...
    No yucky paint...

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    Micromesh comes in several different grits, like any sandpaper-type abrasive. The grit will matter because if it's too fine, it won't remove enough finish, and if it's too coarse, it'll remove too much finish, and it won't be smooth enough.

    So you'd definitely want to talk to someone at Stew Mac before ordering the product (you can also buy micromesh at most woodworking shops as well).
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    Quote Originally Posted by LSchefman View Post
    Micromesh comes in several different grits, like any sandpaper-type abrasive. The grit will matter because if it's too fine, it won't remove enough finish, and if it's too coarse, it'll remove too much finish, and it won't be smooth enough.

    So you'd definitely want to talk to someone at Stew Mac before ordering the product (you can also buy micromesh at most woodworking shops as well).
    Or, if you're a Gear Page member, shoot Scott Peterson an email or PM and he'll tell you exactly what to do. He's done it on a bunch of guitars…

    And I just checked, he's a member here, too...
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    Don't be afraid to go back and play it again. It may have just been one of those days. Ironically, that's what happened to me when I tried my Mira - I went and played it, and it was utter crap. I didn't like the sound at all. Could not figure out why when everyone else was raving about it. Even played it through the same model amp that I had. But it was also an amp I struggled with, so I wrote down my settings and went back a couple days later, and everything was different and much better.

    But if you still don't like it, listen to yourself - don't try to talk yourself into liking it.
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    Schefmann and Leeasam, you're right. The Mira just wasn't for me. I LOVED the sound of that guitar! Very responsive to fingerpicking, all that..and LIGHT, to boot....just not for me. I don't know what to say when the specs say your Taylor isn't as wide, but when I'm playing that Mira it seemed huge. The hollowbody PRS are more than I can swing, but never thought of the SE version...yet. I did like the G and L tele (at least the neck) but I know I've sailed to distant shores on this forum with that. Cantank. Carl, It's off to the evil's lair I go trying to glean what I can, but they only carry the SEs and the lower ranked G and Ls (not that that's a bad thing, but by the time you swap out lower output pickups or 'poopy pots' you might as well take the plunge). Thanks for the help once again. YOu saved me over a grand and buyers remorse (and back to my Taylor I go). ;-)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Doreen View Post
    Schefmann and Leeasam, you're right. The Mira just wasn't for me. I LOVED the sound of that guitar! Very responsive to fingerpicking, all that..and LIGHT, to boot....just not for me. I don't know what to say when the specs say your Taylor isn't as wide, but when I'm playing that Mira it seemed huge. The hollowbody PRS are more than I can swing, but never thought of the SE version...yet. I did like the G and L tele (at least the neck) but I know I've sailed to distant shores on this forum with that. Cantank. Carl, It's off to the evil's lair I go trying to glean what I can, but they only carry the SEs and the lower ranked G and Ls (not that that's a bad thing, but by the time you swap out lower output pickups or 'poopy pots' you might as well take the plunge). Thanks for the help once again. YOu saved me over a grand and buyers remorse (and back to my Taylor I go). ;-)
    Don't tell anyone on this forum that I said this, but check out an used Taylor Solidbody Standard. Used, you can find them for under a grand. I cannot say enough good things about mine--I've even been looking to pick up another as a backup. Mine has their HD mini-buckers and it is a total blues monster, but with added flexibility. It doesn't hurt that it is totally gorgeous. Since you already love Taylor necks, I'm sure you'd get along fine with this one. Seriously. It is a monster guitar on the used market. I would suggest sticking with the mini-buckers, as I didn't like their full-sized ones, and I LOVE the HD minis.
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    THIS ^^^^
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    Did we switch forums all of a sudden???
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    A Taylor electric is something I never considered. I haven't heard one thing about them really.... tell me (I will switch back to PRS discussion when they make a neck that fits MY hands) ;-)

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