Page 1 of 2 12 LastLast
Results 1 to 20 of 29

Thread: Will stopbar tailpiece slots accommodate a set of size .013 -.062/.065 strings?

  1. #1
    Junior Member
    Join Date
    Aug 2013
    Posts
    57

    Will stopbar tailpiece slots accommodate a set of size .013 -.062/.065 strings?

    I plan on making a metal monster out of a PRS se soap bar ii. Swapping pups, heavier strings and so forth. Can these bridges with the slots accommodate really heavy strings? If not, can it be modded in any way? Can it just be filed if done right? I know I would most likely have to file the nut as well but that is a lesser concern right now. Thanks

  2. #2
    Bobble Head Moderator JMintzer's Avatar
    Join Date
    Apr 2012
    Location
    Potomac, MD
    Posts
    1,255
    You'd probably want an adjustable bridge…


    Jamie
    ---Jamie---

    My Gear

  3. #3
    Junior Member
    Join Date
    Aug 2013
    Posts
    57
    Quote Originally Posted by JMintzer View Post
    You'd probably want an adjustable bridge…


    Jamie
    Ideally, yes. I just can't afford $300 for a bridge right now. But does anyone actually know if the strings will fit nicely I to a non adjustable bridge without slipping out?

    (Granted they do fit, there will be no way to Intonate right?)

  4. #4
    Senior Member wardog's Avatar
    Join Date
    Mar 2013
    Location
    Belleville, MI
    Posts
    323

  5. #5
    Almost was a FG22 owner.. WEDGE's Avatar
    Join Date
    Apr 2012
    Location
    Too close to the casinos in CT.........
    Posts
    1,545
    They won't intonate right above a ten gauge set.
    ​Secretary of Crackwood Addiction

  6. #6
    Happy Egads's Avatar
    Join Date
    Oct 2012
    Location
    Boulder, CO
    Posts
    1,799
    I've heard of 11s being fine. I don't know about anything bigger, though.

  7. #7
    Senior Member Proxmax's Avatar
    Join Date
    May 2012
    Posts
    216
    wedge says it right!
    Bavarian Barbarian

  8. #8
    Junior Member
    Join Date
    Aug 2013
    Posts
    57
    Quote Originally Posted by Proxmax View Post
    wedge says it right!
    You guys are crushing my dreams of turning a soap bar guitar into a metal monster. Haha

    Id prefer to tune to B but maybe I'll have to settle for D at most, comfortablly. Im just lusting for this model i love its simplicity with the flatter top and the coat that allows me to still see wood grain (vintage cherry)

  9. #9
    Junior Member
    Join Date
    Aug 2013
    Posts
    57
    Quote Originally Posted by WEDGE View Post
    They won't intonate right above a ten gauge set.
    Why is that exactly? Because the strings are bigger than the slots I assume? I have 013s on my les Paul and no intonation was needed just strung it up and go. And I don't think those slots were meant for heavy strings either...

    Can anyone give me tips on how to file the bridge?

  10. #10
    Senior Member vchizzle's Avatar
    Join Date
    Apr 2012
    Location
    WI
    Posts
    2,180
    It's not an issue of the string not fitting. They will fit fine. I use a .60 on my lowest string. The stoptail is made for standard sets of strings. When you get into strings that heavy, you need to be able to adjust intonation on each individual string. The standard stoptail doesn't allow for that. The pigtail from stewmac comes with unslotted saddles. You need to have them slotted by a tech - you need the radius to match the fretboard....not really something I'd do unless you know what you're doing.

  11. #11
    Senior Member
    Join Date
    Oct 2012
    Location
    Decorah, Iowa
    Posts
    214
    http://www.schroederguitars.com/buy/...toptail-bridge

    here ya go and for an extra $10 he will slot the gauge and radius for you!
    2010 Taylor 816CE
    2012 PRS P22 in black gold wrap around

  12. #12
    Senior Member wardog's Avatar
    Join Date
    Mar 2013
    Location
    Belleville, MI
    Posts
    323
    Quote Originally Posted by leeasam View Post
    http://www.schroederguitars.com/buy/...toptail-bridge

    here ya go and for an extra $10 he will slot the gauge and radius for you!
    I have this one on my se sc. Very nice. Never thought about slotting the saddles. I use Ernie ball hybrid 9, should i have saddle slotted?
    I like surprises!!!

  13. #13
    Junior Member
    Join Date
    Aug 2013
    Posts
    57
    Quote Originally Posted by leeasam View Post
    http://www.schroederguitars.com/buy/...toptail-bridge

    here ya go and for an extra $10 he will slot the gauge and radius for you!
    Wow this looks like a great option. 2 questions:

    1. since the pigtails are a few bucks cheaper, if I were to get them and bring them to a guitar shop about how much do you think they would charge to slot the saddles?

    2. If I go with either the pigtails or the Schroeder's, would I have to get special studs/inserts? Or they fit just fine on the PRS SE studs that are already in the body? (Probably a dumb question I know)

    Thanks

  14. #14
    Member Dan-d-1985's Avatar
    Join Date
    Apr 2012
    Location
    Edinburgh, Scotland
    Posts
    140
    I've heard nothing but praise for the Scroeder bridge on SE and US PRS guitars. They have all been slotted before shipping AFAIK and get it right first time.

    If you're gonna do it, go Schroeder if a PRS adjustable isn't viable (though if it's a dream to make a proper monster, why not wait a bit longer and do it right 100%?).
    '12 Mira Green Burst - '09 Cu24 Charcoal Burst - '09 SC250 Dark Cherry Burst - Taylor 514CE - Ibanez SR300 Bass - Mesa MkV Head & 1x12 Cab

  15. #15
    Junior Member
    Join Date
    Aug 2013
    Posts
    57

    Talking

    Quote Originally Posted by Dan-d-1985 View Post
    I've heard nothing but praise for the Scroeder bridge on SE and US PRS guitars. They have all been slotted before shipping AFAIK and get it right first time.

    If you're gonna do it, go Schroeder if a PRS adjustable isn't viable (though if it's a dream to make a proper monster, why not wait a bit longer and do it right 100%?).
    Because the PRS adjustable bridge is adjustable in the way that you can move the saddles back and forth, but the slots are still standard size, is that correct?

    Besides if I'm going to spend money on PRS American parts then I might as well save and get an American made PRS Custom but I haven't the patience nor money.

    If you say Schroeder is good enough, I'll take your word for it

  16. #16
    Junior Member
    Join Date
    Aug 2013
    Posts
    57
    Quote Originally Posted by leeasam View Post
    http://www.schroederguitars.com/buy/...toptail-bridge

    here ya go and for an extra $10 he will slot the gauge and radius for you!
    Will they do custom sizesor just standard size and is there additional cost for custom sizes?

  17. #17
    Opaque John Beef's Avatar
    Join Date
    Apr 2012
    Location
    Arizona USA
    Posts
    1,419
    Quote Originally Posted by WEDGE View Post
    They won't intonate right above a ten gauge set.
    Sorry, this is just not correct. I run 11-49s on all my PRS guitars, except the Mushok. They intonate perfectly. The only way you might be correct is if you have one of those funky sets of 11s with a wound G string, but these are far less common than having a .018 plain G.

    For a while I also ran 13s on my stoptail Mira and tuned it to B standard and it intonated close enough for rock and roll. I don't know about other styles of music though.
    The Bovine Fury <-- stream and download our album "Eleven by Twelve" for free.
    05 Custom 22 with DGT pickups ~ 07 Mira with old birds ~ 08 SE Baritone Fralin/Suhr pickups ~ 03 SE Santana

  18. #18
    Senior Member vchizzle's Avatar
    Join Date
    Apr 2012
    Location
    WI
    Posts
    2,180
    Quote Originally Posted by guitarfan85 View Post
    Because the PRS adjustable bridge is adjustable in the way that you can move the saddles back and forth, but the slots are still standard size, is that correct?

    Besides if I'm going to spend money on PRS American parts then I might as well save and get an American made PRS Custom but I haven't the patience nor money.

    If you say Schroeder is good enough, I'll take your word for it
    The slots on the PRS adjustable are plenty big to accommodate your string gauge. Best designed stoptail I've seen. That said, have heard nothing but good things about the Schroeder bridge.

  19. #19
    Senior Member
    Join Date
    Oct 2012
    Location
    Decorah, Iowa
    Posts
    214
    hmm you might need these not sure for the shroeder. But it will lock everything nice and tight and really be a sustain machine! Plus being set can restring with out bridge coming off etc and once intonation is set should stay set!.
    2010 Taylor 816CE
    2012 PRS P22 in black gold wrap around

  20. #20
    Junior Member
    Join Date
    Aug 2013
    Posts
    57
    Quote Originally Posted by John Beef View Post
    Sorry, this is just not correct. I run 11-49s on all my PRS guitars, except the Mushok. They intonate perfectly. The only way you might be correct is if you have one of those funky sets of 11s with a wound G string, but these are far less common than having a .018 plain G.

    For a while I also ran 13s on my stoptail Mira and tuned it to B standard and it intonated close enough for rock and roll. I don't know about other styles of music though.
    When you had those .013s on there did you make any adjustments to the nut at all to accommodate the string size or did it work just fine?

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •