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    Dragon I incoming, but can this be true?

    So, I scored a pair of Dragon I pickups!

    In the seller's pics, the treble pickup output shows 18.9 k , and the bass at 7.8 k (which I like).

    Isn't the treble pickup output off the charts???
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    Recovering Bass Player ]-[ @ n $ 0 |v| a T ! 's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by enigma View Post
    So, I scored a pair of Dragon I pickups!

    In the seller's pics, the bass pickup output shows 18.9 k , and the bass at 7.8 k (which I like).

    Isn't the treble pickup output off the charts???
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    Quote Originally Posted by ]-[ @ n $ 0 |v| a T ! View Post
    That's why Sleeby (AKA QueenCityGuitars) calls 'em fire-breathers.
    Well, this fire breather will be caged in the Modern Eagle I ca[pti]vity to be unleashed at appropriate moments!
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    I have a set in my 1996 Custom 22 and they are riffmeisters!!!

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    The set I bought a few months ago measure 20.8K Bridge.....8.3K neck! Must be the Gold Poles!!!!
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    Yea, the bridge pickup is quite hot!

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    I love the Dragons, wish I had kept my last pair.
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    Dragon 1s in a ME1? That's my idea!

    A lot depends on your amp, playing style, etc...But today I was playing my vintage Les Paul Custom loaded with real PAFs (a really good set, BTW). I'm not exaggerating. The ME1 with Dragons sounds better.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Brad737 View Post
    Dragon 1s in a ME1? That's my idea!

    A lot depends on your amp, playing style, etc...But today I was playing my vintage Les Paul Custom loaded with real PAFs (a really good set, BTW). I'm not exaggerating. The ME1 with Dragons sounds better.
    Photo is dated 2010.....been there done that !

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jet Whitey View Post
    Photo is dated 2010.....been there done that !

    That's HOT!

    My pics to come soon!!!
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    Modern Eagle I deserves a set of Dragon I ~~~
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    I recently installed Dragon I's in one of my non-PRSi guitars and I absolutely love it.

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    Whether to keep the original pick up rings, or go black or metal ~~~

    BTW, in many ways, Modern Eagle I is my Private Stock! And, to put Dragon I is to seal the deal!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jet Whitey View Post
    The set I bought a few months ago measure 20.8K Bridge.....8.3K neck! Must be the Gold Poles!!!!
    Woah!
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    When did they "officially" switch from the DIs to DIIs in production?
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    Quote Originally Posted by CantankerousCarl View Post
    When did they "officially" switch from the DIs to DIIs in production?
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    Technically, D1 Trebles use 44 gauge wire, 2 gauges thinner than the neck pickup. They require so many more turns on the coils to fill up the bobbins that the resistance really is that high (the longer the wire, the higher resistance). Not too many pickups use 44 gauge. For most humbuckers, 42 is the most common for vintage type pickups and 43 is common for hotter modern pickups. The high resistance is only correlated to higher output when the wire is the same gauge.
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    Quote Originally Posted by John Beef View Post
    Technically, D1 Trebles use 44 gauge wire, 2 gauges thinner than the neck pickup. They require so many more turns on the coils to fill up the bobbins that the resistance really is that high (the longer the wire, the higher resistance). Not too many pickups use 44 gauge. For most humbuckers, 42 is the most common for vintage type pickups and 43 is common for hotter modern pickups. The high resistance is only correlated to higher output when the wire is the same gauge.
    Thanks for the info. So, what does this translate to, tonally?
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    I honestly have no idea! I spent some time learning about how pickups are made, out of what materials and stuff. It's easy and cheap (with open coil pickups) to experiment with various magnets and hear for yourself how that variable can change the sound, but the coil wire's gauge and how it makes a direct impact on the tonal equation remains a mystery to me. It has to do with inductance and some other factors, stuff I have read in the past but still have yet to grasp fully.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ]-[ @ n $ 0 |v| a T ! View Post
    That's why Sleeby (AKA QueenCityGuitars) calls 'em fire-breathers.
    Quote Originally Posted by Brad737 View Post
    But today I was playing my vintage Les Paul Custom loaded with real PAFs (a really good set, BTW). I'm not exaggerating. The ME1 with Dragons sounds better.
    Quote Originally Posted by enigma View Post
    Modern Eagle I deserves a set of Dragon I ~~~
    Quote Originally Posted by geese_com View Post
    I recently installed Dragon I's in one of my non-PRSi guitars and I absolutely love it.
    I am digging all of this Dragon I love! I played Brad's Emerald Green ME I with Dragon Is and that guitar sounds (and plays) fantastic!

    Quote Originally Posted by enigma View Post
    Whether to keep the original pick up rings, or go black or metal
    If they're zebra bobbins, keep the cream pickup rings. If they're double-black bobbins, go with black pickup rings.

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