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    SE Bernie Marsden

    Im a big fan of Bernie Marsden and his signature guitar looks and sounds fantastic from i see at youtube.Any owners here and your thought about this guitar?
    I de-modded my CU22 soapbar and made a factory spec setup.Im in love again.I very much believe now PRS guitars are perfect as they are.

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    yes great guitar..you cant go wrong with this guitar..a few upgrades and its top of the line...

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    I love mine! This is my go to rocker....
    - Dane

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    Are the body dimensions and specs identical between the Bernie and the SE245? I was under the impression they were. Aside from the neck binding, controls layout and tuners, I thought they were virtually identical. Is that correct?

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    Just noticed that the Bernie is considered one of the six best signature guitars of 2012 by Guitarist mag along side some tough competition such as the EVH sig, Johnny Marr & Kurt Cobain sig by...err... other manufacturers.

    Not bad for a humble SE which -as far as I know - was initially only going to be released in limited numbers!

    http://www.musicradar.com/news/guita...rs-559229/3#!3
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mikegarveyblues View Post
    Just noticed that the Bernie is considered one of the six best signature guitars of 2012 by Guitarist mag along side some tough competition such as the EVH sig, Johnny Marr & Kurt Cobain sig by...err... other manufacturers.

    Not bad for a humble SE which -as far as I know - was initially only going to be released in limited numbers!

    http://www.musicradar.com/news/guita...rs-559229/3#!3

    Mike, I back ordered the Bernie Marsden and lucked out, my nut is much better than some of those I tried at Guitar C etc and the set up straight from the box is ideal.. perfect intonation, I even like these standard Pups, just raised my bridge a smidgen and lowered the neck Pup and alikazzaammmmmmmmmmmmm I have got my own "Mini-beast" for $649..... thanks for your stuff on youtube and that of the Zombie (also out of the UK)..

    PRS quality is IMHO the best of any of the manufacturers and I own Fender products and have looked at many Gibson, Schecter, Jackson products etc..

    My PRS SE Bernie Marsden is a little Korean Rolls Royce... GREAT QUALITY

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    MY Bernie has a HUGE ASS neck at the base, much heftier than the 245s I tried at GC in NYC a few weeks ago. and the body of my BM is THICKER.... also the tones out of the 245 Pups on the Bernie model seem a bit meatier (make sense) probably due to the extra thick body................... will see if I can put exact specs down
    Last edited by dogsbrekky; 02-11-2013 at 04:10 PM. Reason: typo

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    Hey bud, glad you like it and welcome!

    Had mine for over a year now and I love it to bits! I've since added an SE C24 (2012) to the stable and (Apart from some bad luck with the nut again) it's an absolute gem! The quality is top notch and doe put other manufacturers to shame it has to be said.

    I always thought the body was the same thickness but I never measured. There was a noticable difference in neck size between the Bernie (Based in part off his '59 LP) and the 245 despite them both being described as 'wide fat'. The neck heel's a monster but I really like it. I don't have big hands but it doesn't cause any issues at the dusty end.

    I think Guitarist mag mentioned the same thing when they reviewed it. Can't remember the exact quote but it was something about the Bernie sounding more classic or something. Tiny differences but they do make a difference.

    If you ever get a chance to pop the neck pup take a look at the quality of the joint. Long tennon and perfectly executed!

    I've said this before but if they did different colours i'd get another but this time probably keep the stock pups, but maybe throw some nickel covers on.

    Pics!!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mikegarveyblues View Post
    Hey bud, glad you like it and welcome!

    Had mine for over a year now and I love it to bits! I've since added an SE C24 (2012) to the stable and (Apart from some bad luck with the nut again) it's an absolute gem! The quality is top notch and doe put other manufacturers to shame it has to be said.

    I always thought the body was the same thickness but I never measured. There was a noticable difference in neck size between the Bernie (Based in part off his '59 LP) and the 245 despite them both being described as 'wide fat'. The neck heel's a monster but I really like it. I don't have big hands but it doesn't cause any issues at the dusty end.

    I think Guitarist mag mentioned the same thing when they reviewed it. Can't remember the exact quote but it was something about the Bernie sounding more classic or something. Tiny differences but they do make a difference.

    If you ever get a chance to pop the neck pup take a look at the quality of the joint. Long tennon and perfectly executed!

    I've said this before but if they did different colours i'd get another but this time probably keep the stock pups, but maybe throw some nickel covers on.

    Pics!!!

    Yeah, when I find my digi camera will take some, my cell phone camera sucks rotten egg gas

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    yeah mate, my nut is okay (well the nut on the Bernie, not necessarily my NUT), actually quite good, but for $7 and a little time I think it may be better to get the best, plus I am a tinkerer

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    See my twitter feed as the pics didnt come out here


    https://twitter.com/TuxOnMadisonAve

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    Nevermind... I had a brain fart!

    Your best bet is to upload pics to a site such as Flick or Photobucket.

    Nice looking Bernie BTW!
    Last edited by Mikegarveyblues; 02-13-2013 at 04:00 PM.
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    Quote Originally Posted by dogsbrekky View Post
    That's the correct nut - or as close as you can get without using an oversized blank. I had a local tech fit mine and it was cut from a blank.

    Here's the thing though.. I ordered this nut for my C24:

    http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/GRAPH-TECH...item3a7e1a4f2a

    which is the Black Tusk XL version of that nut. Same dimensions.

    With that nut I had a hair line gap at the back and sides and the slots weren't quite at the right angle. Minor details that wouldn't affect anything but it's been enough for me to pull it and i'll be having my tech fit one from a blank next week.

    The nuts are supposed to be oversized in height and width so you can get a perfect fit but mine wasn't (Except for the height).

    Haven't read an experience similar to mine so either I was a little unlucky or i'm being very anal about a hairline gap!

    As ever... Measure carefully to make 100% sure it all fits.

    My measurements of my Bernie compared to the 245 and other 'wide-fat' guitars is that the Bernie is a touch wider. Just fractions of an inch or millimeter, but it's there. Guitarist mag also carries slightly different measurements for the Bernie and 245 in their review.

    Infact... I'll dig it out to check....
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    I'm going to do a JFK........................................ wait until the Russians actually bomb until I respond to changing the NUT,

    IE..................... enjoy the thing until I eff it up !

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    Okay, according to Guitarist mag (And matches both my and my techs knowledge) the nuts of the Bernie and 245 are:

    Bernie - 43.7mm

    SE 245 - 43.3mm

    Just to throw a spanner in the works...

    In their recent review of the Limited Edition Bernie, Guitarist measured the nut width at 43.3. A half mill narrower than the stock one!!!

    I'm pretty sure the plain white and black nuts are a little oversized (They ALL are height wise) on the width so I doubt you'll have issues with it fitting. Still not sure what went on with my Tusq XL one though. Here's what mine looked like when fitted:



    Notice the slight gap. Although it's clear i'm being very picky given it's less than the width of the high E string!!! This is why Graphtech slightly oversize their nuts. Strange mine wasn't. Hope I haven't confused you with all this but it's a couple of things to bare in mind.
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    Yeah definitely a big difference, but the 13s are for DAFCGC tuning and the Santana is in standard. Sometimes I tend to overbend the strings though because its so effortless compared to the 13s.

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    I like the Zebra look AND alas, I dropped Bernie on my little Vox headphone amp..

    Bernie = zero damage

    Vox amp = Hiroshima

    all good because I ordered a Fender Frontman 25G, eff the apartment neighbours, he hehhhheeeeeeeee

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    I just picked up a Bernie after watching Bernie's and Mike Garvey's You Tube videos and it is everything it was cracked up to be. I was initially drawn by the reports of the chunky bound neck, but was really sold by the great tones...and the great looks!

    I've had Gibsons and Fenders and a host of clones, but I don't think that I've ever had a guitar that just melted into my hands like the Bernie. Mine is absolutely perfect...right out of the box. I'll probably end up tinkering with the nut because I like 10s, but I like the pups and won't be changing those out anytime soon.

    Well done, PRS!

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    Quote Originally Posted by guitargeezer View Post
    I just picked up a Bernie after watching Bernie's and Mike Garvey's You Tube videos and it is everything it was cracked up to be. I was initially drawn by the reports of the chunky bound neck, but was really sold by the great tones...and the great looks!

    I've had Gibsons and Fenders and a host of clones, but I don't think that I've ever had a guitar that just melted into my hands like the Bernie. Mine is absolutely perfect...right out of the box. I'll probably end up tinkering with the nut because I like 10s, but I like the pups and won't be changing those out anytime soon.

    Well done, PRS!
    Hey Guitageezer, welcome to the forum and congrats on the Bernie!

    It's interesting... I embedded a couple of my Bernie vids onto a thread on here recently. One was completely stock and the other was with the upgraded pups. It was the first time in a while i'd heard them together and I have to say the stock pups sounded great. I always loved the neck but was less keen on the bridge - and I wanted covered pups - which was why I swapped them out. But I have to be honest and say the stock SE245 pups do sound great. I don't regret the change as I like the sound of the pups I have now.

    If I know there's never going to be a US Bernie then I would actually buy another and keep it stock and send the other off to be re-finished in a different colour. Just such a great guitar that I have no issues with owning two.

    What solo it for me was the neck. it looks and sounds great, but the neck is - for me at least - perfection!

    Post some pics!!!
    Modified SE Bernie Marsden, SE Custom 24 2012, Fender Strat
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    Wishing for a Blue Bernie!
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    So I have to get some pics up...I need to get pics of my Bernie with the 53/10's and the new to me (thanks serg!) Tone Pros bridge! Tonight I think....
    - Dane

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